U of R vs. Tufts vs. Williams

<p>You will have strong opportunities to work one-on-one with Professors at Williams. The top schools will offer more places to Williams grads than U of R grads. Everytime. Look into it.</p>

<p>It all depends on what school is a better fit for you.</p>

<p>If you want the small LAC feel, and you're going for prestige pick Williams.</p>

<p>If you want a small college in a University setting, with strong ties to a great med-school then pick UR. Not quite as prestigious, and social life is probably not quite as good, but you will get a great education and probably do pretty well with financial packages.</p>

<p>I don't know anything about Tufts so I won't comment.</p>

<p>I applied to U of R, for Biomedical Engineering. I visited Williams, at first I just didn't see myself there. . . . but I kind of regret not applying for bio at Williams.</p>

<p>Also, pick a school for the best fit to your personal needs. If you work hard, there will be opportunites available. No matter where you go.</p>

<p>Why does everyone say U of R is not a prestigious school?</p>

<p>Why is everyone saying U of R is not a prestigious school?</p>

<p>I think the U of Rochester is underrated and underrecognized because its name makes it sound like a public university. They almost changed the name to Eastman University several years ago. There is also a slight difference in selectivity between U of R and Tufts.</p>

<p>U of R has plenty of prestige, but only from those that know what the college is, and have seen how great the school really is.</p>

<p>Unfortunately, University of Rochester sounds public, and the past administration hasn't really done a good job of promoting name recognition. It is getting better, but still needs improvement.</p>

<p>I personally think it is very under-rated. I may have to choose U of R over both Columbia and Cornell, but I am unsure at the moment. I just feel like U of R could be such a great fit for me, but the draw of prestige is extremely powerful but I think I could be happy at any of the schools.</p>

<p>True, but I'm thinking long term, UR is a school that will blow up in prestige in just a matter of time, they made some groundbreaking advances, government grants for physics/optics, Biomed building, simon school , etc</p>

<p>Personally I've never really heard of it and I thought it was a state school : / But I guess I can change my opinions now haha. But in truth, I don't think many schools on US News in the top 50 will make any dramatic changes. They've been rather stagnant for years (with a few exceptions as always). Red Queen Effect, for every advance one university makes, another will make one equally well.</p>

<p>yeah, I know, but unfortunately "snuffle's" conception of U of R is very prevelant.</p>

<p>People hear U Rochester, and they think "oh, it must be a SUNY school, I've never heard of it." I almost overlooked it because I read something about the school, then somebody mentioned the school to me, but for some reason the name didn't even stick with what I read. </p>

<p>I think using "University" as the first half of the name was a big mistake. It would be better even if they made the name "Rochester University" It places more emphasis on Rochester.</p>

<p>I think the name Eastman was a really good idea, but I believe that one stipulation when Eastman gave a lot of money to the school is that it would not be named after him. </p>

<p>Perhaps even naming the college something different under the rochester name, kind of like Eastman and Simon do. . . .maybe Genesee College. . . .or something that ties in with it's location or history of rochester, to give it a more memorable, more private sounding name.</p>

<p>I dont think changing the name now is going to help it any, it will just make it more lost in the mix. Also, I don't know what school will pick my personal needs, that's why I posted, I'm a very indecisive person, and I liked them all for different things, I'M SO BAD AT MAKING DECISIONS!!! :-( Maybe I'll get "lucky" and only get admitted into one of them.</p>

<p>What are your needs then? 'Decisively' discover and list them, and we will find the match ;)</p>

<p>U of R is a solid school limited by location, weather and the fact that the majority of students (roughly 1/2) are from NY. It has well regarded depts and has the advantage of a small/mid sized undergrad program within a university. Emory, Wash U St Louis and U of Chicago are similar in this respect. In the recent past, Wash U gained in national reputation, peer assessment and popularity. They have been able to attract many students and applicants due to a major initiative. Another major difference between U of R and the above are endowments. At approx $1.3 billion dollars it is difficult to keep pace with the above schools.
However, U of R seems to be headed in the right diection and will continue to be considered a fine school ranked somewhere between 25 and 40.</p>

<p>Yeah, but would I be wrong to say that UR has a really strong (among the strongest) premed programs in America?</p>

<p>You would. Its is good for research opportunities, but my thought is its not going to place any more kids in the top med schools than other schools of its caliber. Williams will place far more grads, percentage wise, into the top schools.</p>

<p>At the U of Rochester, about 70% of students who apply to med school get in. High school students can apply to both the U of R undergrad and to the U of R med school at the same time and be accepted into both when they are seniors in high school. If accepted, all you have to do is complete the undergrad in good standing and you are automatically into the med school.</p>

<p>Slipper, actually you are wrong... UR has one of the highest rates in the nation of getting its undergrads into the top grad. schools... I believe it is like 4th or 5th with Williams not even on the chart...</p>

<p>Hopkinslax: Source?</p>

<p>I have a really hard time believing that. I don't have the time to look it up right now though...</p>

<p>This survey includes med, business, and law. But if U of R were up in medicine, wouldnt it at least register? Also, I talked to my friend at Cornell med over IM and he said he has three Williams grads in his class of about 100 and he only knows of one U or R grad, and Williams is much smaller overall with less applicants applying to med school. </p>

<p>A Wall Street Journal study set out to find out which schools sent the most of their students to top law, buisness and medical schools. Here are the results:</p>

<p>Top 50 Feeder Schools
1) Harvard
2) Yale
3) Princeton
4) Stanford
5) Williams
6) Duke
7) Dartmouth
8) MIT
9) Amherst
10) Swarthmore
11) Columbia
12) Brown
13) Pomona
14) University of Chicago
15) Wellesley
16) University of Pennsylvania
17) Georgetown
18) Haverford
19) Bowdoin
20) Rice
21) Northwestern
22) Claremont McKenna
23) Middlebury
24) Johns Hopkins
25) Cornell
26) Bryn Mawr
27) Wesleyan
28) Cal Tech
29) Morehouse
30) University of Michigan
31) New College of Florida
32) Vassar
33 University of Virginia
34) United States Military Academy
35) University of Notre Dame
36) Emory University
37) United States Naval Academy
38) Macalester
39) Brandeis
40) Bates
41) University of California, Berkeley
42) Barnard
43) Trinity
44) Grinnell
45) Tufts
46) Colby
47) Washington University
48) Washington and Lee
49) Case Western Reserve
50) Reed</p>