<p>Uh again, we’re talking about business schools. Looking at a list of comprehensive post-college salaries has to take into account what schools a university has and the social mission of each school. For example, UVa has a public-minded vision as dictated by its founder Thomas Jefferson coupled with an Education School (which Cornell does not have) that trains many teachers who later teach at public elementary/high schools around the country. How many teachers do you know earn high salaries? Their salaries will bring down the average of the overall class. (And in their case, it’s not about the money but about educating the next generation.)</p>
<p>So, Globalist, do you discount the interdisciplinary synergy to universities? The fact that a school has high-caliber departments across the board means a great deal.</p>
<p>Check out the overall median starting salary in the WSJ data: Cornell = 60,300 and UVA = 52,700</p>
<p>Still waiting for you to answer the question: why the 81 position disparity in USN&WRs World’s Best Colleges and Universities?</p>
<p>And I’m waiting for actual facts from you as to why Cornell Business School is better than UVA’s business school? By the way, if Cornell’s business school is so hot, why is its business school grad’s median starting salary ($55k) so much lower than Cornell’s overall median starting salary ($60k)? Looks like if you want to earn the big bucks, business may not be the best way to go at Cornell.</p>
<p>It is a fact that a university is the synergistic sum total of its many colleges, programs, and departments. The options for high-caliber electives, and cross-disciplinary forays is why I’d choose the school that is clearly academically superior overall: Cornell. If the OP would like to look at his situation from your narrower perspective, he of course may. As I stated in my first post, the University of Virginia is a very good school, and it has the top ranked undergrad business program. The fact that Cornell is in the top 10 in that specialization, would just lead some people to a conclusion quite different from yours.</p>
<p>But wouldn’t this synergism be displayed quantitatively somehow? Either through rankings, earnings, or the like. It seems to me that even with this “synergy,” UVA’s McIntire tops Cornell’s AEM?</p>
<p>Overall I don’t think anyone doubts that Cornell is a better school. Just not for this academic department. Things would be different if the OP didn’t know what he wanted to major in. Keep in mind he has just 2 years there as well.</p>
<p>Colm, haha, I never said Cornell was a horrible, inferior school. All I have done is present facts as to why McIntire is a great education that one should consider. Yes, college is more than a major just as a university is more than a rank. That’s why it’s important to know what aspects/options a school offers (hence my examples listed in post #30).</p>
<p>@Here<em>to</em>Help - The synergism is displayed in the broader university rankings, in a very big way. I’d choose Cornell, and the decision wouldn’t be hard. Still, I can understand that others might look at this issue in a narrower manner, and can arrive at a different conclusion. The OP will likely fare well enough, either way. I wish him all the best.</p>
<p>I never thought, or claimed, that you did. Our disagreement is in our view of what is more in the OPs interest, and to me it is not UVA if he is interested in a wide array of high-caliber interdisciplinary options. And you still haven’t answered my repeated question.</p>
<p>And you haven’t answered mine. No school has a monopoly on amazing synergism. Students from both Cornell and UVa get a great education no matter what they study. I say the OP should visit the schools. Would you buy a car without first taking it for a test drive?</p>
<p>^^ Why do you assume that he hasn’t yet visited? If he in fact hasn’t, then he definitely should. Also, I’m not claiming that there is no synergy at UVA, just that it doesn’t quite match what is accessible at Cornell.</p>
<p>Believe as you will. I’m sure the UVa business grads spending $14k less for 2 years at UVa vs. Cornell and making $3k more when they graduate will be thinking the same way come pay/loan-payment day.</p>
<p>Sometimes you get what you pay for, but then again, Cornell has phenomenal FA for kids in the lower income brackets, and their admissions process is completely need blind.</p>
<p>I wish you all the best Hoffman, good luck, whatever you choose!</p>
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<li>Meets 100% of demonstrated need for all admitted undergraduate students.</li>
<li>Low income kids go for free (even out-of-state kids).</li>
<li>Need-based loans are capped for middle-income kids with additional need covered in grants. </li>
<li>Student Financial Services offers additional one-on-one counseling to admitted students and their families and assists them in the financial aid application process.</li>
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<p>Since the the focus of the topic has been transferred to salaries and, I would like to know more about both schools’ placement on consulting firms.
thank you both for all the first person information, which really helped me a lot, I would like to type more about my thoughts in this reply, but I’ve got and final in 8 hours…so</p>