UC Application Discussion Fall 2023 and new extended Submission period

All UC applicants are considered for merit scholarships such as Regents/Chancellor’s without a separate application. If there is no financial need, if awarded, these scholarship amounts will be at a base honorarium. Ie. UCB’s Regents is $2500. If there is financial need, then Cal grants, Middle class scholarship, Federal aid would be combined up to the cost of attendance. Other than UCLA and UCB (their wording about need based aid for Regents is vague), the rest of the UC’s specify that the need-based aid associated with these scholarships are for in-state CA students.

UCLA and UCB identify possible Regent recipients. UCB requires an interview process and UCLA will require a separate scholarship application with an access code. For the rest of the campuses, Freshman Regents/Chancellor recipients are automatically notified.

For other scholarships available at each UC that require a separate application, information on whether they are need-based or merit based should be listed on the application information page.

gumbymom, now I’m confused.
If we don’t apply for FAFSA, my kid is still considered for the merit scholarships, correct?

Thanks so much,

The UC’s do not require the FASFA for merit aid so you do not need to file.

Individuals which have financial need and file the FASFA may be eligible for additional money if a Merit scholarship also has a need based component such as Regents.

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Gumbymom, I think I read this somewhere but wanted to confirm. UCs don’t take senior year first semester grades, right? Also, what is their posture with respect to updates since sending in application - like new awards?

Thanks very much

Senior grades are not part of the application review, however maintaining a good GPA and completing all courses listed on the UC application is important for keeping your provisional admission.

UC’s will not accept updates such as awards, EC’s etc.

Thank you. Would have liked to send the first semester grades - oh well!.

If a student is waitlisted, then some campuses will allow grade and achievement updates as part of their waitlist process.

Gumbymom, So for UC application review, UC only considers sophomore and junior grades.
I was under the impression that UC also considered the first semester of senior year, but it’s helpful to know. Thanks for all info.

They review all four years in determining whether A-G requirements have been fulfilled. 9th and 12th grade (IP) can also be an indicator of rigor. The UC GPA is only based off of grades from summer before 10th grade through summer after 11th grade.

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Thanks ikg4answers, it makes a lot of sense to me

Are you in CA? It was my understanding that FAFSA is now required for CA high school students as a graduation requirement. It is at our high school this year (I think parents can opt out if they really want to). I’d recommend filling out the FAFSA, you just never know. Even some outside merit scholarships ask for EFC. Our family qualified for the Middle Class Scholarship and you have to fill out fafsa to get it.

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Yes, FAFSA required in California (and some other states), unless you opt out.

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@Gumbymom, do UCs consider alternate major? Is there an impact of major section on admission?

If you can comment by campus it would be great. TIA

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If the UC campus/Department admit by major then major selection is important for admission. Below is the information for alternate majors.

UCB:
Starting Fall 2023 applicants can select an alternate major. If interested in applying to a High Demand major, that major needs to be your 1st choice.

UCD:
Applicants are encouraged to list an alternate major, but not in the same area as the primary major (e.g., Computer Science Engineering with alternate Computer Science in the College of L&S). Occasionally, they admit to the alternate major.

UCI:
UCI admits into the University first and then into the major. In the case that UCI is unable to accommodate all qualified applicants in their first-choice major, those students who indicate a valid alternate major may be offered admission in that major or Undeclared.

UCLA:
UCLA only guarantees review of an applicant’s first-choice major.
UCLA typically does not admit to the alternate major.

UCSD:
The campus does not admit students on the basis of academic major or choice of UC San Diego undergraduate college. Alternate majors are considered and capped majors are highly competitive. Also note: Capped majors require additional pre-req courses and specific GPA to be able to qualify if changing majors. Also if applying to a capped major, select a non-capped major as an alternate.

UCSB:
College of Engineering: Students are selected by major for all engineering and computer science majors. Only applicants with a solid background in advanced high school mathematics will be considered for admission to engineering. This includes high grades in all math courses through grade 11 and enrollment in pre-calculus or higher in grade 12. A student not selected for their first choice major will be reviewed for admission to an alternate major outside of the College of Engineering if one was selected.

UCSC:
Important Note for Prospective Engineering Students: Choice of major does not influence the selection of first-year students, except for those applicants interested in a major offered by the Jack Baskin School of Engineering (BSOE). Freshmen who are interested in a BSOE program should be sure to indicate a BSOE proposed major. Students who do not indicate a BSOE program or who apply as undeclared might not be able to pursue a BSOE program.

UCR and UCM:
Admission by major but alternate/2nd choice major will be considered if applicant does not need their first choice admission standards.

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Here is the information on how the UC’s admit in regards to major selection:
UCB:
Major choice is a factor for admission into the College of Engineering (COE) and the College of Chemistry (COC).
Changing majors within the CoE after enrolling is not guaranteed, unless one is CoE undeclared.

Note that L&S admits students as undeclared.
There are changes in the admission process for High Demand majors listed below. For example, if apply for EECS in the College of Engineering, there is now an option to select CS in the College of Letters and Sciences as an alternate.
HIGH DEMAND MAJORS: Art (Practice of), Public Health, Media Studies,CS (L&S), Data Science, Operations Research & Management Science, Statistics, Economics, Global Studies, Political Economy, Psychology and Social Welfare.
Admitted students will be guaranteed a spot in the major they selected, subject to completing the prerequisites, maintaining good academic standing in L&S, and filing a declaration form.

Starting Fall 2024, the HAAS Business school will offer a 4 year Undergrad program and Freshman can apply as a direct admit. UC-Berkeley and transfer students may continue to apply for acceptance to the program as sophomores or Juniors.

All students who apply to UC Berkeley and select a major within the College of Natural Resources are evaluated based on their application, not on the particular major they select.

Alternate majors are now considered for Fall 2023.

UCD:
Admission decisions are made based upon the qualifications of the applicant pool and the number of available spaces within each academic area:
• College of Agricultural and Environmental Sciences admits by college
• College of Biological Sciences admits by college
• College of Letters and Science admits by College but within specific academic departments: ie. (Humanities, Arts and Cultural Studies; Mathematics and Physical Sciences; Social Sciences)
• College of Engineering admits by academic department

Students applying as “undeclared” or “undeclared/exploratory” are considered within the college/academic department to which they applied.

Applicants are encouraged to list an alternate major, but not in the
same area as the primary major (e.g., Computer Science Engineering with alternate Computer Science in the College of L&S). Occasionally, UCD admits to the alternate major.

UCI:
UCI admits into the University first and then into the major. In the case that UCI is unable to accommodate all qualified applicants in their first-choice major, those students who indicate a valid alternate major may be offered admission in that major or Undeclared.

UCLA:
For the College of Letters and Science, the applicant’s major is not considered during the review process.

The Henry Samueli School of Engineering and Applied Science admits students by declared major, with more emphasis on science and math programs.

The School of Nursing also places more emphasis on science and math programs and requires the submission of an additional supplemental application.

The School of the Arts and Architecture; Herb Alpert School of Music; and the School of Theater, Film and Television admit students by declared major (within the school), and put more emphasis on special talents through a review of portfolios and/or auditions, which are the most significant admission factors for these schools.

UCLA only guarantees review of an applicant’s first-choice major.
UCLA typically does not admit to the alternate major

UCSD:
The campus does not admit students on the basis of academic major or choice of UC San Diego undergraduate college. UCSD admits into the University first then into the major. Alternate majors are considered and capped majors are highly competitive. Also note: Capped majors require additional pre-req courses and specific GPA to be able to qualify if changing majors. Also if applying to a capped major, it is recommended to select an non-capped major as an alternate.

UCSB:
College of Letters and Sciences: Choice of major is not considered in selection to the College of Letters and Science. The exceptions to this rule are dance and music performance majors. Both majors require applicants to complete an audition in late January or early February.

In the College of Letters and Science, students are admitted to a major or a pre-major. If admitted to a pre-major, the student must meet additional requirements at UCSB prior to declaring the full major.

College of Engineering: Students are selected by major for all engineering and computer science majors. Only applicants with a solid background in advanced high school mathematics will be considered for admission to engineering. This includes high grades in all math courses through grade 11 and enrollment in pre-calculus or higher in grade 12. A student not selected for their first choice major will be reviewed for admission to an alternate major outside of the College of Engineering if one was selected.

College of Creative Studies:
Applicants to the College of Creative Studies submit a supplementary application in addition to the general UC Application, which is reviewed by Creative Studies faculty. Students are selected within Creative Studies majors only. Applicants not selected for Creative Studies will automatically be considered for admission to the College of Letters and Science.

UCSC:
Important Note for Prospective Engineering Students: Choice of major does not influence the selection of first-year students, except for those applicants interested in a major offered by the Jack Baskin School of Engineering (BSOE).

Freshmen who are interested in a BSOE program should be sure to indicate a BSOE proposed major. Students who do not indicate a BSOE program or who apply as undeclared might not be able to pursue a BSOE program.

UCR:
Admission by major but alternate/2nd choice major will be considered if applicant does not meet their first choice admission standards.

For Business: Freshmen students must apply to Pre-Business under the College of Humanities and Social Sciences (CHASS). The College breadth requirements and the prerequisites for a Business major are completed during the freshman and sophomore years. An application is submitted at the end of the sophomore year. Upon acceptance, students become Business majors and are then advised in the Business Department. Students from any academic major may also complete a Business minor.

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Thank you very much for your valuable information.

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How are the number of A-G courses and number of AP/IB/Honors courses stats published by some UCs as part of their admitted student profiles counted? Is a full year course counted as 1 or is it counted as 2 (on a semester basis)?

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In this example of the UCSB Freshman profile, the Honors/AP/IB and A-G course numbers are semesters but based on 9-12th classes.
https://bap.ucsb.edu/institutional-research/new-student-profiles/new-freshmen-profile

In this example of UCSD, the Honors courses are 10-11th by semester.

Do you have some specific examples regarding your question?

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Thank you. Nothing specific. I was wondering about 50+ A-G courses. Your clarification about the time period as well as “semester” counting helps clarify.

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My applicant’s portal says they are in the top 9% of state-wide index. But I think they’re probably pretty highly ranked in their high school as well. Does the portal not show both ?

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