@lindyk8 - I’m wondering if Berkeley EECS has rather been accepting international students who transfer from a university more than those from CCC, even though they prefer CCC students first. I’ve been reading it on college confidential but really don’t remember where after reading so many posts.
Please correct me if I’m wrong.
@crseven, I have no idea. You may want to email EECS and ask what their preference would be. I still think CCC will win, however.
@crseven I agree that CCC will be easier. Many international students attend CA CC’s to transfer to UC’s. It’s a smart thing to do.
Getting into EECS is difficult in itself. I’m sure it’s much more difficult for international students (as they don’t have the benefit of transfer agreements and whatnot - assist.org). I may be wrong, but I think it’s generally very difficult to transfer to a UC from abroad.
That’s scaring me a bit more, @goldencub . I read on college confidential at at least 3 places that international students are preferred over in-state residents. Maybe I’m wrong or its not true anymore. So you do your research, I’ll do mine, and we’ll update back here for other international students like me, including myself?
@crseven I find that information interesting and a little questionable in my opinion. UCs would get more money from international students versus in-state students, but thats the only “argument” I have seen on college confidential. Most other information and statistics that I come across is that ccc transfers are more likely to get admission. I agree with @goldencub and @lindyk8 that I have also heard that it is very hard for international students, and more so in impacted majors like engineering. This is likely due to courses not articulating. CCC have assist.org to link up with preferred UCs. It’s not as straight cut for international students. CCC is definitely the “easiest” route I have heard to get into a UC. Even a UC to UC transfer is more difficult. Not impossible, but harder than transferring from a ccc.
@crseven Where did you read that?
And why does that scare you? Don’t you plan to go to a CA CC?
@goldencub I think he’s wanting to try getting in from his international hs. So maybe the prospects of that are scaring him. But a ccc is probably his best bet.
I do know more internationals are accepted as freshman than as transfers. Maybe OP is referencing that. Although int’l preference over in-state seems dubious.
There were a bunch of articles in the media around July describing an increase in international enrollment citing state budget concerns.
Sources:
http://www.dailynews.com/social-affairs/20150702/university-of-california-admits-fewer-state-residents-for-the-fall
http://www.sfchronicle.com/business/article/How-foreign-out-of-state-students-pad-UC-s-6434407.php
http://www.dailycal.org/2015/07/02/uc-admissions-data-for-2015-16-see-increase-in-nonresidents-reflect-state-budget-negotiations/
It’s also worth noting is that since AB 93 (and it’s subsequent legislature) passed, California approved an increased budget allocation to the UCs until 2019, so it’s likely that those non-resident numbers will stay stagnant for a while.
For Berkeley, UCLA, and UCSD it’s definitely easier to go through a California Community College.
A telling sign of this is the on-campus housing demographics since international students often lack the legal and financial resources to live off-campus. (The vast majority of them will stay with a “host” faculty member or on-campus through campus housing services) So while International students should be concentrated in on-campus housing, the reality is that they only make up around 4% of all housing residents at the three campuses.
My first hand observation from when I stayed in the Berkeley Res Halls was that it’s rare to have more than two internationals on a floor (around thirty people on each) and the vast majority of them were either freshman admits or CCC-transfers.
Thanks @SDGoldenBear @sugarbabies3 .
@goldencub - I do prefer to transfer from a CCC as an international student. I assumed that assist.org would be complicated for an international student. I was wrong I think. Still haven’t checked it out.
I’m an international student, planning to go to a CCC and then transfer to UCB for the EECS major. I’m using assist to find which CCC completes all course requirements, and a few of the courses that are strongly recommended by UCB that would ‘increase strength of the application.’
There are so many colleges to go through. Can someone who transferred from a CCC to the EECS major in the last two years help find a college please? That would be a great help.
I want to take all the required and strongly recommended courses from one college, so its gonna be difficult to look through each one on assist.
But if there’s a way of taking those strongly recommended courses at UCB and still satisfying it for credit, then please let me know.
I know my query is very specific, but it would be greatly appreciated if an EECS transfer admit could help!
DeAnza College and Diablo Valley College transfer a lot to UCB. DeAnza has s large international student body (I believe).
https://www.deanza.edu
@crseven I think many CS/EECS majors try to go to various CC’s in order to complete the requirements. I know CS61A, for example, is offered at Laney College, and not many other places. Perhaps a summer session would be convenient for you, if you wanted to complete as many of the recommended courses as possible.
I agree with @goldencub on both counts.
Laney is a really good choice for Northern California and, if your finances can support it, your better off going a CCC with the best accommodations for you during fall and spring and then taking whatever course that isn’t offered during summer at any UC. You also get the benefit of the doubt in that any offered course not taken is not used against you in this case.
A good choice for Southern California would be Moorpark CC in Ventura County.
@SDGoldenBear Ah, I meant to take a summer session at Laney (or other CCs), to get certain classes over with. Taking courses one may need at a UC is a massive gamble. It’s definitely not the best idea to take CS 61A at Berkeley if one is attempting to transfer into EECS, that’d likely end up a disaster imo.
Thanks guys. So, just to confirm, there’s no way I could take all the required and a few recommended courses in one CC? Also, could you link a few successful EECS transfers from CCC here? I remember reading them casually on college confidential but now wanna check which CC they went to.
Hey, I have a quick question if anyone can answer: how hard is it to get into o-Chen or physics series at Cal if it’s not part of your major?
@goldencub I was considering taking CIS61a in the upcoming summer. (transferring to CS BA in L&S) What about it would be a bad idea?
^ CIS61 at Laney?
No, at Berkeley.