<p>How does a course qualify for "UC-Approved" or "UC-Certified Honors" status in calculation of an out-of-state student's "A-G" GPA?</p>
<p>Not only would this affect the weighting of my UC GPA, but whether courses were even conidered part of the A-G curriculum.</p>
<p>Remember, I'm out-of-state, so I don't think they'd accept syllabi from my school's Admin's, even if they agreed to send them.</p>
<p>Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!</p>
<p>I myself am from California.</p>
<p>Have you even searched up the A-G requirements?</p>
<p>On the UC application, it specifies the status of each class that you took (i.e. Honors, AP, etc). Google UC A-G courses.</p>
<p>Generally a A-G class includes any class that fall into the math, english, science, visual performing art, foreign language, and social science groups.</p>
<p>My understanding is that it is generally your core college prep courses in English, math, social science (including history), foreign language, and lab science, and then the UCs add visual or performing arts (art, music, etc). If your high school has honors and APs in those areas, the UCs will generally accept that as being the same as California for doing the calculations unless they have a reason to suspect otherwise. Also, only sophomore and junior year courses count toward UC GPA and there are limits on number of courses that can be calculated as honors or AP. Go to the UC's "pathways" site (put that in Google and you will find it) to see the rules.</p>
<p>Note, what you will find as the UC required GPA and test scores at that site only tells you what you need to be considered for admission, and admission usually takes more particularly for out-of-state. How hard is it for out-of-state particularly for the lead schools like UCLA and Berkeley? A few years back, a number of California legislators were expressing strong criticism, particularly of Berkeley and UCLA, for rejecting a large number of students with very high GPAs and test scores and accepting a lot with much lower scores. The accusation was that the UCs were not complying with the California law against considering race or ethnic background in admissions. The UCs were able to silence those critics by showing that almost all of those very high scorers that were rejected were out-of-state, i.e., they were doing what they are required by California law to do -- favor in-state applicants.</p>
<p>Yes, I know what the A-G requirements are.</p>
<p><a href="https://doorways.ucop.edu/list/%5B/url%5D">https://doorways.ucop.edu/list/</a></p>
<p>the UC system requires that (California) schools submit information about their classes in order for them to be considered a part of "A-G" or to be considered "UC Honors" classes (weighted into the UC GPA)</p>
<p>my question was regarding the procedure for out-of-state schools/students to have their courses evaluated and given these considerations.</p>
<p>thanks, drusba</p>
<p>The UCs will not evaluate the courses for OOS students -- there are over 30,000 high schools oustside of California so it would be a waste of taxpayer money. However, each campus has application reviewers who specialize in OOS apps. They do the calculation while reviewing the app.</p>
<p>But, as a general rule, most frosh & soph classes will not count for the honors designation, regardless of what your HS calls them. For example, Honors Soph English will not count but Honors Jr English will. Honors Geom and Alg II are not eligible for the bonus point, but Honors PreCalc is so eligible (since it is typically a Jr/Sr course). Honors Bio will not count, but AP Bio will count for the bonus point. Indeed, all AP and IB courses will count for bonus point designation. The distinction is that a course needs a prereq to count for the bonus point, and it does not fulfill an eligibility requirement (like Alg II).</p>
<p>Academic courses only, so ignore Religion (unless Comparative Religion as a senior), PE, Drivers Ed, Health, Student Aid, shop and basket-weaving, even if honors. :)</p>
<p>One more point, even for OOS they like to see the visual or performing arts classes.</p>
<p>actually, ebeee, all applicants MUST have a VAPA class or the app will not be reviewed.</p>
<p>thanks bluebayou. I thought that was the case but didn't want to say so unequivocably in case I was wrong...</p>
<p>Actually I didn't have any visual or performing arts classes on my transcript (Not really known in my part of the world), and I've been accepted for '11 at Berkeley.</p>
<p>So take the requirements with a pinch of salt. They're not rules, more guidelines really. ;)</p>
<p>Of course, this may well be because I'm International, so this really could be an exception. That said, I just thought I'd say that it is possible to be accepted even if you don't have a VAPA class.</p>
<p>I believe it is definitely the exception and because you are international. If you are in the US and you want to go to a UC, just do yourself a favor and take the VAPA. It won't hurt. You might actually learn something..and you won't be posting that "aakkk I didn't take VAPA, why won't UC X bend the rules for me." thread that appears every admin cycle.<br>
Too bad, because those are my favorites, along with the..."I applied to colleges I can't afford knowing my parents wouldn't pay...why won't the school just give me all the money I need even though they don't meet 100% of need and I knew it" threads.</p>
<p>last year on this board were several OOS US kids who were rejected at Cal and UCLA and a couple of Cal States. When they called, they were told that they did not meet the minimum requirements, i.e., missing VAPA or a science class, etc. </p>
<p>However, Shrivats makes a good point which I always forget. One can become eligible for UC by testing alone. For OOS apps (and internationals?), it used to be ~3550 total SAT points required (5 tests), but I can't find the current link. (I'll dig later.)</p>
<p>Ah, I had about 6360 on SAT tests. :) (2360+4000)</p>
<p>That was probably it... :D:p</p>