<p>i was wondering about what a basic minimum for the UCs would be
say UCLA or UC Berkeley?
as for minimum
im thinking of gpa, sat scores</p>
<p>Well officially you need to have at least a 3.0 UC GPA to be considered for admission to any UC. If you're talking about some magical combination of SAT/GPA, there is none, but generally to be competitive, you'll be aiming for 3.8+ GPA, and 1900+ SAT but preferably and more often than not 2000+ SAT. SAT IIs should break 700. Again, there is no magical combination and I'm sure scores of people that fit that stereotype up there were rejected.</p>
<p>Averages are given in the data sheets, which can be found here:</p>
<p>For UC Berkeley, the averages are UC GPA 4.17 (equals around a 3.87 UW GPA), and SAT CR/Math/Writing scores of 667/692/670 = 2029</p>
<p>For UCLA, the averages are UC GPA 4.14 (equals around a 3.84 UW GPA), and SAT CR/Math/Writing scores of 657/689/662 = 2008</p>
<p>That sucks to see how high the GPA averages are! :( I only have a 3.74!</p>
<p>Also, it's important to realize that 90% or so of the students are from California, so if you are applying from out-of-state, or as an international student, your numbers will be need to be much better than the averages given here. I think the average UC Berkeley admittee took 8 year-long AP or IB courses, and at UCLA the number was 7.</p>
<p>Additionally, it should be noted that the graduate schools are excellent also. For example, the NRC ranked 35 of the 36 graduate programs at UC Berkeley among the top 10 in the country. Of these, something like 23 of the 35 were ranked among the top 3 programs offered nationwide. And UCLA's no slouch either--especially when you consider the grad business school, the law school, and the top-notch graduate engineering programs. UCSD also has fabulous engineering, science, and economics programs.</p>
<p>well the minimum is a 3.0 you have to have that in order to qualify, i think that was more of your question, but calcruzer is right in his averages of acceptance also.</p>
<p>If you really do want to apply, the school's 4.17 average shouldn't daunt you. 4.17 is an average, meaning that the people from California that applied to Berkeley as a safety while they got accepted to Ivies are considered into that. The school knows they won't go (Berkeley's matriculation rate is ~50%), so it has to accept people below the average as well. Also, a 4.17 is a UC GPA. If most of your B's (non As in general) are from freshman year, you might want to take that into consideration because UC's will only consider sophomore and junior year grades, a maximum of 8 semesters of AP "extra point" credit, and only A-G classes (ie. PE doesn't count)</p>
<p>I heard that some of the UCs like out-of-state applicants, unlike UCLA.. Is this true? I didn't know that the 4.17 was the UC gpa. Most of my Bs were from freshman year :D</p>
<p>I've never heard that any UC's would necessarily "like" OOS applicants, it might be, however, that the admissions rate for them might be a bit high. The more likely case for that is that OOS students might have higher stats because they recognize the difficulty of getting admitted. The UC, CSU, and CCC systems were designed for the citizens of California, and when ~half the state budget goes to education (of which higher education accounts for 1/4th, for more information, pg 53 of annual budget report), you can see why they won't exactly welcome OOS people with open arms.</p>