<p>Yes, people are bashing UCR with comments suggesting anyone with a brain can get it in. The UCs serve the top 12.5% of graduating high school students, so it’s obviously not easy for everyone to get in.</p>
<p>Furthermore, it’s especially demeaning to UCR, which hosts the second highest under represented minority population at UCs (many who are first generation college students) and also the second highest population of students from low income families. Many of these students were disadvantaged compared to some of the students here, and to slight their educational choices is wrong.</p>
<p>I don’t know whether some of the comments here are motivated by racism, classism, or just an elitist “I’m better than you” feeling. However, it’s appalling to see this coming from a university system that caters to the future leaders of our state.</p>
<p>Only the biggest dbag on the planet could bring race into this thread. Take that liberal bs elsewhere. I don’t care if UCR represents the second highest under represented minority population at the UCs or if it is the second highest popular of students from low income families. That is completely irrelevant. The point at hand is whether or not UCR is a good school, and people here think it isn’t. It is a dump of a place to live, and a third rate school.</p>
<p>This has nothing to do with elitism or classism (and certainly not racism). It’s merely people not sugar coating the truth about UCR. It is a waste of money to attend and is for people who barely scraped by academically. As I said, I would go to my local CSU (Northridge) in a heartbeat over UCR. It is probably better academically, is in a nicer area, and is much cheaper. </p>
<p>If it’s a third rate school, then why does it outrank the flagship universities of Kansas, Nebraska, Vermont, Arizona, Massachusetts, Oklahoma, Oregon, Missouri, Tennessee, etc?</p>
<p>It’s merely people not sugar coating the truth about UCR. It is a waste of money to attend and is for people who barely scraped by academically.</p>
<p>Again, many of the applicants to UCR came from disadvantaged households and their educational achievements shouldn’t be demeaned. </p>
<p>As I said, I would go to my local CSU (Northridge) in a heartbeat over UCR. It is probably better academically</p>
<p>One thing you also have to consider about UCR is 94% of the students who attend were in the top 10% of their HS. That actually outranks Stanford at 91% and is 1% behind Harvard. All data is based on HS class of 2007 and from US News best colleges magazine.</p>
<p>Intuitively, UCR has some of the smartest minorities. Some minorities feel like they would be out of place at UCSB, UCLA, or UCB. UCR is an excellent school for those who want a decent education while staying close to home and receiving financial aid. UCR serves its purpose. </p>
<p>But the bottom line is it doesn’t come close to other UCs. Personally I wouldn’t go, but some people who can’t handle the competition at higher-ranked UCs would. </p>
<p>I would definitely say that in the job market a degree from CSUN would be worth more or just as much as one from UCR. An internship + CSU, cheaper and faster and easier, is better than going to UCR only to get the same job somebody from a CSU would get.</p>
<p>Really, it outranks the FLAGSHIP universities of those states?</p>
<p>Massachusetts: Harvard #1, MIT #4, Tufts #28, Brandeis #31, Boston College #34, Boston University #60, Worcester Polytechnic #71, Clark #80,
Missouri: WU in St. Louis #12, St. Louis University #80
Tennessee: Vanderbilt #18
Oklahoma: University of Tulsa #83</p>
<p>Tied with: University of Kansas, University of Nebraska Lincoln, and University of Vermont.</p>
<p>So in the end, it only OUTRANKS Oregon and Arizone. Wooooo big accomplishment.</p>
<p>I especially liked the part about it being better than the flagships of Massacheusetts, lol. Then again, it still is ranked 89th =</p>
<p>So what if they came from disadvantaged households? Stop turning an academic debate into some ******** class warfare debate. The argument is solely that UCR is a third rate school and is a dump of a place to live. It has NOTHING to do with how much money people have that go there or the color of their skin.</p>
<p>This is why I hate people from San Fransisco.</p>
<p>As for the CSUN, it is still much cleaner and I would still rather go there, lol.</p>
<p>Top 10% attend UCR or are admitted? I would also wager if it is the top 10% who attend, it is more of the people in that 8-10% area, not the top 1-5%. No one works that hard just to attend a school like UCR.</p>
<p>I also have trouble believing that there are more than a handful of minorities who feel more comfortable at UCR than they would at Cal or UCLA. Not to mention if they even got in. </p>
<p>The second part of your post is dead on about CSUN vs UCR though.</p>
<p>Theres no sense in bashing UCR but the people defending it are being ridiculous by adding lame facts about race and minorities… um, look around minorities and people of low income attend top schools all the time, it just depends if they got the motivation to do so.
My parents immigrated here from vietnam with nothing and my dad went to a ccc and transfered to USC.
Also, where did you find that 94% of UCR students were top 10% at there highschool? you probably got confused, it was probably 6% that were top 10% and 94% that weren’t.</p>
<p>I get it’s a dump of a place to live (I go there and agree!) but I have absolutely no idea how anyone can conclude that you would get a bad education there. The professors are mostly top-notch (practically all my teachers have a PH.D. from some Ivy League school or another), and the education is what you make of it. A lot of people assume that each class is just dumbed down to the lowest common denominator at UCR…not true. Plenty of classes I’ve taken failed half the class. Because they were hard. </p>
<p>Bashing the area is one thing, but honestly, how can you bash the education if you haven’t been there? How would you possibly know?</p>
<p>p.s- I’ve taken classes at both UCR and community college, and can say from experience that the classes at UCR were way harder and went into the subjects with more depth. Then again, I’m a computer science major, not some fluffy liberal arts major (just kidding about the diss! sort of…)</p>
<p>Really, it outranks the FLAGSHIP universities of those states?</p>
<p>Flagships Universities are the top public universities from a particular state. Lets stick to public schools because privates are a whole different animal in terms of tuition and endowment. I’m glad you got a “lol” out of me saying that UMass Amherst is the flagship of Massachusetts, but that’s exactly what it is:</p>
<p>Again, I’m not sure what motivates you to bash people who have lower GPAs and SAT scores than yourself.</p>
<p>Also, where did you find that 94% of UCR students were top 10% at there highschool? you probably got confused, it was probably 6% that were top 10% and 94% that weren’t.</p>
<p>Um, the entire UC system caters exclusively to the top 12.5% (with ELC being a caveat) of high school graduates in California. The minimum GPAs and eligibility indexes are periodically adjusted to stay as close to this number as possible. That’s what the California Master Plan of Higher education mandated and that’s how it’s been in California since 1960.</p>
<p>You didn’t say the flagship public universities, you said specifically flagships of the STATE. Those universities being within the state. You can’t just ignore private schools cause they are a “whole different animal” that is nonsense.</p>
<p>Glad you dropped the race and income bs though. Glad to see something got through.</p>
<p>And I failed out of high school (got my GED) and never took the SAT. So not bashing people who have lower GPAs and SAT scores than me. Merely saying the school is a third rate school and Riverside itself is a dump.</p>
<p>I was joking in a way… I know a chunk of UCR alunmi were probably top 10-15% but hella no its 94%. Maybe it all depends on what H.S you attend Cause at my school outta 618 grads top 10% is rank 62/ 618 which was still a 4.1 W gpa for my senior class, as opposed to Inglewood high? idk… haha</p>
<p>There’s not much reason to look at private universities within the context of a state which is why flagship always refers to public universities.</p>
<p>Cause at my school outta 618 grads top 10% is rank 62/ 618 which was still a 4.1 W gpa for my senior class, as opposed to Inglewood high?</p>
<p>Well you should be happy you’re attending a good high school. What’s the API score there? And why do you feel you need to make fun of Inglewood after stating that my bringing of classism into this thread was stupid?</p>
<p>The leakage out of the top 10% range would be students who were between the 10.0%-12.5% range and those at poor performing high schools who made the ELC cut despite performing poorer than the top 12.5% bar. In practice, most of the students on that lower range (10.0%-12.5%) come from ELC.</p>
<p>You can’t disregard a group of schools when talking national rankings just because it isn’t fair they have more money. These schools are open to everyone just as public schools are.</p>
<p>But I am glad you aren’t bothering. I only get a headache arguing with white knights.</p>
<p>How is mentioning Inglewood high classism? Did he ever say he was higher class and they were lower class? Or did he merely make comment that Inglewood high is known for being academically weak?</p>
<p>You would be better off sipping a latte at starbucks with your ivory tower friends talking about how great cap and trade is and how stupid republicans are for opposing universal healthcare.</p>
<p>Collegeboard and other sites show that 94 percent of ucr students graduated in the top ten percent of their class. UCR is a good school that has the misfortune of being a part of arguably the best university system in the world. However, even the worst UC is a really good school. Cal Poly SLO is the only cal state that may be equivalent to UCR in academics. This is based on reputable rankings. UCR is a good school in a crappy part of Cali but you can’t say it’s academics aren’t good in comparison to other schools in the country. </p>
<p>It’s also ranked one of the top ten up and coming universities in the nation. Compared to the other UC’s and the elite colleges around the nation UCR is not as great. However, it shouldn’t be compared to CSUN.</p>
<p>Whatever dude i was never bashing UCR if you read my earlier posts, it just annoys me that you added like low-income and minorities being uncomfortable at higher schools. </p>
<p>Dawg i’m vietnamese and am the youngest of 6 children (idk my parents are idiots) so i know how it feels when money is tight around the house. I really don’t know about the University of California surveys but like i said before maybe its just how competitive the High School is.</p>