uc tier1 or tier2 schools, chance me please

<p>Good morning, all my scores and GPA are in and up todate now</p>

<p>Gender-female Asian
School-top competitive school in California
UC GPA- WT 3.789 UN WT 3.71 didn't do good in 10th grade 3.4 average, but manage to
improve grades in every semester. Jr 1st semester 4.12 2nd semester 4.2</p>

<p>SAT reasoning r710 m800, w690 total SAT 2200
SAT subject test MATH2 800
physics 800
World history 770</p>

<p>PSAT commended list
UC Berkeley ATDP summer program</p>

<p>EC and volunteer work</p>

<p>Piano 10 yrs
Ping pong 6 yrs
Guitar 1 yr
Pianist for kids group for 2 yrs
Volunteer for disable kids for 3 yrs
Ping pong coach assistant for 1 yr
Round Robin assistant to co-ordinator for 1 1/2 yrs
math tutor middle school this yr</p>

<p>My biggest questions are the following</p>

<ol>
<li>I heard that all schools including UCs will give rating to each high school and re-calculate
the gpa otherwise it won't be fair for those with low gpa in a highly competitve school
environment</li>
<li>Since my highschool didn't wt my college classes I took, wil UC re-calculate and adjust
my gpa up ?</li>
<li>What about the AP Calculus class I took from Berkeley ATDP program ? I got an A out of it, but my highschool didn't recognize and put on my transcipt.</li>
</ol>

<p>Will I have any chance to get it tier 1 UCs or tier2 UCs</p>

<p>Appreciate any feedback </p>

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<p>Bump ! I DON’T BELIEVE NOBODY CAN ANSWER MY QUESTIONS ?
Anybody ?</p>

<p>The only opinion I can give is that based on your very strong SAT scores and consistent upward trend in GPA you have a very good chance of acceptance at a tier one school and will certainly be accepted by the tier two schools.</p>

<p>As to your questions about how the UCs handle high school grades, they are fairly technical and probably should be addressed to an admissions officer of one of the universities you are interested in or possibly your high school guidance counselor. It is my understanding that high schools submit your transcript to the UCs you are applying to and the UCs calculate your GPA for their purposes based on their own algorithms.</p>

<p>I really do not see the UCs formally ranking high schools on the basis of their quality and rigor and and using such rankings as part of their admissions process. Such a process would inevitably alienate those high schools who were ranked near the bottom since it would be much harder than it already is for those high schools to get their graduates accepted into college. The UCs, and CSUs, have a variety of institutional interests and offending any high school could come back to haunt them. For example, the universities may not be interested in many of a certain high school’s students for their academic potential but the high school may consistently produce highly recruitable atheletes and the university would want to be on good terms with that high school to give it a good chance of recruiting a star player. It may not be fair, but given the choice between enrolling the valadictorian of the state’s top high school in academics or a quarterback that could lead their football teams to the Rosebowl from the state’s worst high school in terms of academics, UC Berkeley and UCLA will take the football player every time. It is not that the universities do not want the scholar, but the quarterback is potentially so much more valuable to the university in terms of revenue generated he will be the student they want the most. It is hard to see the benefits a university would gain from assigning a rank to each high school in the state and easy to see the potential costs.</p>

<p>That being said, I am sure the admissions committees at every college and university in the state have a general idea of which high schools in California are the best academically and which are the worst and subjectively use this information when making admissions decisions.</p>

<p>Lemaitre, many thanks for your valuable opinion. I plan to major in Computer Science since I am good at math and Physics. My friend suggested me to try Early admission with Carnegie Mellon, do you agree ?</p>

<p>I am not really familiar with Carnagei Mellon but I have heard that it is strong in science and technology programs like Computer Science. If I were you though I would try to learn a lot more about the school and even visit it to be sure it will be a good fit for you before you make a commitment like early admission. With your qualifications you will likely be accepted by many fine schools, some of which you might like better than Cargenei Mellon but if you go the early decision route you will close off these options. Before I applied for early decision there and essentially eliminated other opportunities you are going to have I would want to be certain that it is the right school in the right community for me. Is there something so special and unique about Carnegei Mellon that if you were offered admission there today you would accept without considering any further the many other options you are going to have?</p>

<p>I don’t know if I have time to visit the school, but I’ll try to research more into it. Thanks
for your suggestion anyway</p>

<p>bump ? Any other comments ? The day before yesterday, my mom took me to an education consultant to give me a preview of my profile. She didn’t go into details because she had to charge for the services. But she mentioned that I SHOULD enter my 10th grade actual gpa from a private high school when I apply to uc. My current high school replaces all b+ with b when re-entered onto its transcript. Is it true ?</p>

<p>

Yes, the UCs look at the high school you attend, but they do so not to give an advantage to already advantaged students attending excellent schools, they do so to give extra consideration to students attending the lower-performing schools. Because the UCs are barred by law from considering race or ethnicity in admissions, this is one of the strategies they use to increase diversity in the UCs.

The UC GPA is calculated using 10th and 11th grade only, A-G courses only, and adding one bonus GPA point for AP/IB courses and UC-approved* honors courses for up to 4 year-long courses, no more than two of which can be in 10th grade. *Only courses listed on you high school’s Doorways course listing as being UC-approved for honors are given the bonus GPA point. You can look up your high school here: <a href=“A-G Policy Resource Guide”>A-G Policy Resource Guide;

<p>

If the Berkeley ATDP program is able to issue official transcripts showing that class, then yes, it can be listed on your application and will be included as an AP class in your GPA calculation. The UCs do not use your high school’s GPA calculations - they use the UC GPA. (Note: do not send any transcripts until you have been accepted and choose your campus. THEN send your transcripts only to the campus you will attend.)</p>

<p>

You do not enter a GPA on your application. You list all of your courses (9th through 11th, as well as 8th grade Algebra or Foreign Language if they were high-school-level courses) and the grades you received. You choose “AP” for AP courses, and “Honors” for **honors courses listed on your high school’s Doorways course listing<a href=“see%20above”>/B</a> as being UC-approved for honors. Then the UC does the calculation for you. </p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>Thanks a lot Alamemom. One more question, after I enter all my classes and grades, and UC will re-calculate my gpa. Will I be able to view my updated GPA right away on the computer screen ?</p>

<p>No - as far as I know, it doesn’t display anywhere (unless they have changed the application from last year). You will just have to do your best calculations to figure it.</p>

<p>Use 10th and 11th grade only (include your Berkeley AP class if it was the summer before 10th, between 10th and 11th, or after 11th)
A-G courses only (see UC website and Doorways link above for A-G lists)
Only add up to 8 SEMESTERS (4 year-long courses) of bonus GPA
Only 4 Semesters (2 year-long courses) of bonus GPA can be from 10th grade
Only include bonus GPA for Honors courses if they appear on YOUR high school’s Doorways list (linked above)</p>

<p>It sounds comnplicated, but it isn’t as bad as it sound once you list all your A-G courses. Good luck!</p>

<p>o.k. that means if I re-enter my(UC a-g) b+ grades in 10th grade, instead of b from my current highschool transcript, my overall gpa should have gone up. I’ll try to re-calculate
again.</p>

<p>Many thanks</p>

<p>They don’t use + and - . Just A, B, C (unless it has changed this year), and you enter the *actual *grade - don’t change it to account for the AP or honors bonus. You will choose an AP or Honors designation for the course and that will trigger the system to calculate it as such. Here is a handy calculator from the CSU Mentor website: [url=&lt;a href=“Cal State Apply | CSU”&gt;Cal State Apply | CSU]CSUMentor</a> - Plan for College - High School Students - GPA Calculator<a href=“The%20CSUs%20use%20the%20same%20GPA%20calculation%20as%20the%20UCs.”>/url</a></p>

<p>ok. thanks a lot. Have a good day</p>

<p>Your HS GPA is low for Berkeley. Nevertheless, this is what I think.</p>

<p>BA CS (under the College of Arts & Sciences) – low reach to reach</p>

<p>EECS - reach to high reach</p>

<p>Berkeley weighs HS GPA more than they do test scores.</p>