<p>I'm majoring in Bus. Econ with emphasis in Accounting here at UCSB. Econ classes are more challenging than Accounting classes. When it comes to job prospect after graduation, you have more advantages if you do the accounting emphasis. When you do the accounting emphasis you can work as an accountant when you graduate just like other students who majored in BS Accounting. There's actually not much difference between emphasis in Acctng( it's not a minor!!) and B.S. Accountancy other than you'll have more college units when you do B.S. Accounting as it's a 5-year course. One of the CPA certification requirements is 224 quarter units if you want to practice nationally. The state of CA only requires a degree in Accounting and the UC System only requires students 180 quarter units to graduate. With a degree in BizEcon WITH accounting you're eligible to take the CPA exam.</p>
<p>Like what I said on my previous post the Big 4 Accounting firms are very active in on-campus recruiting here at UCSB, UCLA, and USC. Your other advantage?? When you work as an accountant you have more knowledge of Economics than most of your peers.</p>
<p>I think it basically comes down to where I wanna work right after college and what city I prefer during my next two years.</p>
<p>The more rational decision would be biz econ with all it's advantages and the resulting job options later on. Last night went on faculty websites and compared course outlines and practice tests for both econ and biz econ, and I agree, I might be a little bit "easier" to do biz econ rather than just econ...</p>
<p>FYI the bay area has a better mass transit system then LA. You could get around just fine without a car in San Francisco, LA is very much a commuter city.</p>
<p>yeah I know, I'd definiteley pick the Bay Area over LA, if it wasn't for college...I've lived in LA for a few months and traffic was really annoying</p>
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<p>You should talk to employers- is this the impression they give? I would imagine certain people in SF would prefer the Business Econ degree for certain positions, and certain people in LA would prefer just econ for certain positions, but maybe I'm wrong, and I think most of it depends on you and your personality/people skills, but again, maybe I'm wrong.</p>
<p>I found this while looking to know more about the biz-econ program (the program sounds really good to see if i really want to appeal the UCB decision.</p>
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To provide undergraduates in Economics opportunities to (1) deepen their understanding of the economics of business in courses focusing on finance, contract choice, strategy, entrepreneurship, etc., (2) experience interactive learning in smaller class environments, and (3) learn through access to corporations and business leaders. </p>
<p>Through classes at the Anderson Graduate School, to introduce students to the basic principles of accounting and finance and to provide an opportunity for those who wish to complete course preparation for the CPA exam. </p>
<p>In so doing, our goal is to ensure that highly motivated UCLA undergraduates have a very strong preparation for a career in business.</p>
<p>The program could never have developed without the strong support of Alumni, via the Business Economics Council.
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<p>There seems to be a strong emphasis on finance. However, I really don't see myself becoming an accountant. lol</p>
<p>yeah, I know that...biz econ's business part is for the most part accounting/finance classes. If you take a few (I think 2-3) more classes in addition to your major requirements, you can get a minor in accounting. </p>
<p>I don't wanna become an accountant either, but the accounting minor doesn't mean that you'll definitely end up as an one.</p>
<p>But you have to take 7 upper division courses in math which might not be easy for everyone. Well, I will probably change my major from Math/Applied Science to Math/Econ soon. It seems like Econ is easier than the science (obviously) and that Econ degree is pretty helpful in the future ($$$ you know) :D</p>
<p>i dont think taking 7 upper div math courses is easy for anyone. but try 5-7 upper div. semester courses along with 7 upper div econ courses. i like the challenge... (working towards a math-econ double major at cal)</p>
<p>I'm leaning towards biz econ now, unless someone can convince me to choose Berkeley Econ. Seems easier to get a good paying job right after college.</p>
<p>You plan on going to Germany. The Berkeley name will do much more for you in Europe, and the difference between getting jobs out of college is fairly small, and depends a lot on your abilities to communicate and network. Berkeley is far more interesting than Westwood, but if you live there, hopefully you'll have a car and perhaps the the time to go around LA. You'll be fine at either program, but Berkeley is just better. :)</p>
<p>But going to Germany might happen a few years after college, so Berkeley's reputation won't be as important by then...getting jobs in the business world is probably a bit easier with biz econ and the average starting salary is higher.
I can't say anything against the rest of your arguments though :)</p>
<p>Well, my wife and I are favoring LA right now, it's also more convenient, I can just drive up form San Diego for the Orientation, to look at apartments and it'll be easier for my wife to find a job and for us to move...</p>
<p>But we haven't made a final decision yet, because we both like Berkeley a lot, UCLA just seems to be a more practical decision.</p>
<p>well in my own opinion, both berkeley and UCLA are very well known in europe and asia... i don't think it really make a very significant difference if you go to work in Germany. For my country, I live in Hong Kong, where people misunderstand that UCLA is more famous than Berkeley! So I would just say go by your heart!</p>
<p>Okay, after thinking about it, it seems ucla biz econ has a slight advantage over ucb econ (in program wise and the avg salary of graduates), but how about on the east coast? i plan on moving to nyc after undergrad. </p>
<p>do u think the UCLA name would equate to as many jobs as a vanilla econ degree (assuming no double majors and the like) from berkeley?</p>
<p>I'm writing this 'cause I'm going to start getting my appeal the UCB rejection to econ together tomorrow and I believe the entire process will be taxing, in both emotionally and time-wise. Another con is I don't like the idea of waiting to start school until Spring 2007 (I'll be 25) by then. Would this all be worth it is the question I'm trying to answer at the moment. :o Please help.</p>
<p>Are you sure? Or maybe it's just your buddies who are being really, really nice. ;) Cause i mean Berkeley is world-famous, it's considered a public ivy. Honestly, if you look at the peer ratings in US News & World Report (not that it means a very lot, but in this sense it quantifies "reputation") and it's definitely on par, if not better than a lot of ivies. For example, would your friends recognize Penn (a great ivy league school with top notch research programs and professional programs)?</p>
<p>Yes I'm not kidding. Not because of my friends being nice or I'm going to UCLA or anything... to be honest even if i got rejected by Haas I still feel strong about Berkeley, but this is the fact. But i did tell you guys that those people MISUNDERSTAND that UCLA is better than berkeley.</p>