<p>I just wanna tell you that not many famous Universities here are as famous as they are in other countries. For example, take Penn as an example, I can tell you that about 90% local students in my countries do not know Penn is that good!</p>
<p>I agree, most people I know from overseas wouldn't know Penn. However, they do know Berkeley, which makes this such a hard decision.</p>
<p>I was at a Party last weekend with lots of people from other parts of the US and the world and they all knew that I got into UCLA and UCB. Not ONE person said go to UCLA...everyone was excited to hear I got into Berkeley. I had to tell them of how great the biz econ program at UCLA is in order for them to consider UCLA as an option.</p>
<p>I hear people know Penn in a lot of Europe because of Wharton and business ties. I don' t know about Asia.</p>
<p>Hey guys i just got admitted this morning to the Biz Econ major at LA, and now i have to decide whether to go there for the Fall or to Cal for the Spring as an econ major.</p>
<p>It seems that, after transferring, biz econ at LA is harder to get into than econ at Cal.
The requirements for LA biz econ transfers: <a href="http://www.econ.ucla.edu/bizecon/new-requ.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.econ.ucla.edu/bizecon/new-requ.htm</a>
The most daunting requirement is the 3.5 UCLA gpa. For Cal econ majors, they factor in the grades you recieved in your major prep classes taken at CC.</p>
<p>again, it just varies from different countries... of course cal is a very great school and is more prestigous than UCLA.. but again, both of them are very well-known and great. btw, i just heard from many people that Cal and UCLA discriminates against their own students for grad school, so i think if someone has a particular favourite for grad school in berkeley, maybe he or she should choose UCLA for undergard and work hard in UCLA.</p>
<p>Sorry that if you guys think I say sth wrong of berkeley but it really happens in my country, anyways, I believe the employers know the best!
P.S. Max: if you are going to UCLA, we'll be classmates!</p>
<p>you're also a biz econ major? meeting a future classmate is nice :)</p>
<p>jtsf: I checked out that link, getting admitted to econ at Berkeley sounds a lot easier, you're right...</p>
<p>Lovelyggb, the discrimination you mention doesn't make sense, generally. There are a few factors at play- the graduate programs at each of the schools is amazingly strong, Berkeley slightly more so than UCLA. Many programs except few students. In addition, certain fields and departments advise their students not to stay within the department for their graduate degrees. If you include professional programs, Berkeley is the biggest source for Boalt students, and I imagine many UCLA students fill UCLA law and UCLA med.</p>
<p>well DRab, i have mentioned that I'm not very sure about that... because one of my friend who got 3.9 as a computer science major in Berkeley didn't get into Berkeley's grad school as a master, but UCLA and cornell accepted him.
Again, I really don't know.. it's just what he said and others in the forum said...</p>
<p>max: u sure u gonna give up Cal???
btw, what's the average GPA for Cal's econ?
I'm rejected because I applied for Haas..</p>
<p>I'm not 100% sure yet...</p>
<p>you mean the GPA you need to declare econ as a major or to get admitted to Cal as an econ major?</p>
<p>There is some sheet with the percentage admitted as transfers, but I"m not sure where it is. I don't know what the average econ gpa is.</p>
<p>it's 22% for social sciences, but there is no data for econ specifically</p>
<p>This thread seems to be dying.</p>
<p>But, I'm getting the general consensus that:</p>
<p>(1) UCLA Biz Econ is a tougher, more rigorous, and more competitve program with a higher initial/base salary than UCB's Econ.</p>
<p>(2) This also needs to be seen in the context of the name recognition and marketability of a degree from UCB. </p>
<p>Also, it seems most are taking the UCLA Biz Econ route?</p>
<p>I don't know if it's tougher or more rigorous (it depends on what one takes, I imagine), but business economics is supposed to be more competitive, and I think they do, but which figures support that UCLA business economics majors make a higher base strategy.</p>
<p>It's on the survey pages for both UCLA and Berkeley. Compare the figures. I don't have the links off hand, but I was doing a bit of research and I noticed that it's a slight advantage for UCLA.</p>
<p>Reachin: I agree with you for the most part, but as far as being a tougher more rigorous program, I'm not sure. A lot of people said that the accounting part in biz econ is easier than the econ part and there's quite a bit of accounting. UCB is only econ, which could make it a bit harder. Plus it's Berkeley, I don't expect their courses to be easier than UCLA's.</p>
<p>I wouldn't think that Biz Econ would be more rigorous than UCB Econ, just because Biz Econ leans more toward straight business which is a lot less complex than Economics. Business is naturally straightforward and the business classes I've taken have been pretty easy compared to my Econ classes.</p>
<p>I'm pretty sure that UCLA Biz Econ is a little more competitive though, and I second the UCLA-UCB career survey thing. I don't have any links, but most of what I've read points to higher salaries for UCLA biz econ. I think this is more attributable to the L.A. area than anything else though. Big business is a little more at home in showy L.A. than the radical bay area (unless you're talking tech), don't you think?</p>
<p>I also agree on that one, if you wanna work in the LA area it makes sense to go with UCLA, despite Berkeley's name and reputation. The question is, how helpful/important could the Berkeley degree be later on if one decides to move out of state or go for an MBA...</p>
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<p>Personally, i find this huge, so it's tough to quantify the strengths of each school (I'm definitely hoping to go to a grad school out on the east coast).</p>