**ucb waitlist discussion for class of 2024**

My son is waitlisted for EECS.

We are in state and yes, we are willing to pay full tuition for one semester of online - currently doing it for UCI for our daughter.

Rehashing some stats from fall 2019:
(I’m lumping OOS/INTL together for tuition purposes)

OOS/INTL fr. ENROLLED: 1,820
CA resident ENROLLED: 4,634

Thoughts on what that OOS/INTL number will look like this fall?

@Student11223311 yikes, I’m also poli sci and that’s a bit worrying.

In state - intending major in social science but wrote my essays about econ and would not mind paying full tuition

Fall 2020 Update (tldr): They aren’t sure yet if Fall will be remote/online or in person, but even if classes are in person, remote instruction will be an option and there will not be any tuition or campus fee refunds if classes are remote/online.

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My friend is on the waitlist. Hope he gets in!

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do you guys think oos of the waitlist this year have a better chance than usual?

Does anyone else feel like Berkeley may have waitlisted way more people than usual? In every college decision reaction video I watch, they’re either accepted or waitlisted.

Ik some really good people who weren’t waitlisted and I was surprised by those. But there is indeed a good chance that more people are waitlisted than usual.

U Mich released a wave of waitlist decisions today.

@xtanyax they usually waitlist around 8000 students, a pretty huge number

not everyone opts into the waitlist. Usually only around like 3000 opt-in

oos, just withdrew my app to berkeley because im going to usc!! hopefully one of guys can take my spot :slight_smile:

@kash123 yup, exactly, 3000 is still waaaay more than most other colleges. Also, people who post college decision videos is a pretty self selecting group honestly, so it would be expected they have pretty strong results. Based on my school, UCB DEF accepted less (others on this thread from in state schools have said the same), and they also WL’d the same or less, def not more by much.

Less than two weeks to the (expected) first wave on May 7 and I’m getting extremely anxious.

honestly i am not holding any hope. I am just focusing on choosing a school that I already got in

But why would Berkeley accept fewer students this year? They have a max percentage out of state that they can accept. Wouldn’t they lose revenue by accepting fewer students?

I was wondering the same as @Sisternight for all the UCs – Are they going to keep their 18% cap (I think it’s a little higher for Cal and UCLA) or do you think they’ll make it higher so that they can get more revenue? But assuming they keep the cap, if they don’t meet the quota for OOS/International, they would fill those spots with in-state right? I wonder how many OOS/International will opt to attend a UC off the waitlist this year and If they’ll meet the cap.

I’ve been following through with some of the FB posts for the Berkely class of 2024 and while most are from instate there are actually a good amount of oos and international students committing. For some reason, I feel like the hype and rumors behind accepting more oos and International kids this year off the waitlist may not be true, but I hope they do as an oos applicant myself.