UCD Fall/Summer Deferment

Transfer Students UC Transfers
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<p>I am a transfer student currently registered for a special summer session course at UCD and would like to defer my admission for up to 3 quarters as the catalog says is possible. The course I had registered for takes place over the special summer session and is non-refundable. </p>

<p>I would really hate to lose the funds I am responsible for when I registered for the course, plus the course is really the only exciting thing that has come out of my enrollment at UCD. </p>

<p>Does anyone know if it is possible to take the summer session course and then defer my UCD admission to spring 2011 after, or must I submit my fee and form to defer admission prior to taking any coursework at UCD and forfeit the money for the course that is non-refundable?</p>

<p>Many thanks for your help! </p>

<p>Also could anyone speak on the likely hood of inter-campus transfer from UCD to UCI? I just spent a week up in Davis and the entire situation will not work for me at all. I couldn't lock in a SINGLE course in my major for fall 2010, housing is non-existent, and the honors program is laughable. UCD=BS</p>

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<p>For all deferment inquiries… you got to send a special letter to give a good reason why you want to defer. If you don’t like UCD then why don’t you just take the summer course and cancel your enrollment for FALL? If you don’t want to pay the non-UC fees, then cancel enrollment after class starts.</p>

<p>Why would you want to transfer from UCD to UCI if you are ALREADY a community college transfer? You’re better off going back to Community College and then applying for Irvine in November to save money and the hassle.</p>

<p>But I’m not gonna lie, your reasons why you don’t like davis look like BS to me. Basically everyone I know from CC is going to Davis and all of them (all my friends signed up for the orientations this week) got at LEAST 2 of their courses. What is your major? </p>

<p>Housing is PLENTIFUL at Davis. Are you kidding me? It’s like the definition of a college town and housing is plentiful off-campus (soooo affordable) and on-campus. I will agree that the honors program is weak, but ONLY the honors program they invited most of the transfer students to (honors challenge?). That one is an application process where they don’t accept all students, but it’s still decent at best (goes on your transcript and thats all that matters). The better honors programs come in with the associations on campus or directly through your major. Those look the best and are much harder to get into. But I bet you were too busy sippin that HATERADE before you actually did some legitimate research, son.</p>

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<p>AirJordan64,</p>

<p>Thank you for the information regarding deferment, though Davis does not require any formal explanation just the simple process of application for deferment (for any reason) and the attached fees. It is not a special letter, simply a prefabricated .PDF and seems to be a MUCH easier process then at any other institution in the UC System. The idea of canceling enrollment after class starts seems solid, I just am concerned they will deny my deferral since I am starting classes on campus this summer and I will only qualify for the quarter leave of absence and not deferment of admission. </p>

<p>Going back to community college is purely a waste of time, I completed several classes from concurrent enrollment at UCLA and UCSB and I would no longer be eligible for a TAG nor am I considered a transfer student any longer because of this upper-division coursework to the best of my knowledge. </p>

<p>My major is studio art and art history, I also have an enormous amount of units and every possible option for lower division work completed in both of my majors along with a foundation of UD which has been transferred in from UCLA and UCSB contingent upon the review during July 15th which at the least meets prerequisites for advanced work.</p>

<p>Perhaps there is just something wrong with the system, I could get ZERO applicable coursework in my Art Studio major, and I have already taken the coursework that is open for Art History. I loaded up on comparative lit, theater, American studies LD/UD to fill space at the advice of my peer adviser so I can at least pull aid. With my unit load to pull any aid puts me one step closer to losing funding since I have more units coming in then is required for a BA. </p>

<p>Housing is miserable in Davis, during the week I spent up there the conditions are miserable and the pricing inflated for the quality. Perhaps I am spoiled living in SoCal but every situation and complex I considered might be optimal for someone who is 19, but for someone who is moving from a rented house it is painful, sterile, and dull. I was speaking about honors challenge, which is a joke and I certainly come from a different perspective then being obsessed about what appears on my transcript. I was more concerned with seeking out opportunities for undergraduate research and thesis support which was the impression I had of honors challenge after meeting with them formally in October. </p>

<p>In my discipline the most weight is placed on portfolio work, and most graduate departments do not put excessive consideration on grades attached to such work (within reason a 3.25 is usualy expected to accompany a solid portfolio), the work simply must speak on it’s own. I absolutely agree with you on departmental honors, but I am not established in the department to pursue it yet. </p>

<p>I think my disdain for UCD is quite warranted, I had much higher expectations which yes, is my fault but up to admission I was entirely impressed with the school and how it was run. Once I received admission it has been down hill since, between numerous mistakes made with records, financial aid, course transfer, summer session, and housing. It has been a 2 month bureaucratic fight that is not conducive to producing great output and at this point has become a drain of time and energy best spent in my work. I would like to inter-system to UCI because it is close to me, and the department is much more receptive to the work I am showing, while I know better now then to formulate a sense of confidence about an institution prior to spending several days on campus at the least was I to transfer I can sustain a decent quality of life and space to work in. </p>

<p>Regardless, thanks for the info and replying to my post.</p>

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<p>Hmmm, strange. One of my friends who had to defer UCLA because of financial reasons had to write a letter to a dean or someone at the admissions office (maybe UCD is different?) But taking a summer course at a UC should not void your plans on deferring. There will be several students taking UCD summer courses that aren’t actual UCD students (other UC or CC students), so I don’t believe they can reject your plan purely on that.</p>

<p>Only if you took a very large course load at either of those UCs, you should still be eligible to transfer. If you don’t qualify to transfer from a CC to UC again, then I highly doubt inter-campus will be a choice anymore. Also you don’t really need a TAG agreement to get into UCI because all the mid-tier UCs are pretty much guaranteed admission with a 3.2. Otherwise if you did complete all the classes and pre-reqs for UCI (which I think you’re ahead of), then I would agree that CC would be a waste.</p>

<p>If you are finding trouble finding courses because you have completed most of the course work and the available courses are closed, are you completely sure that UCI is any different? Courses have been impacted UC-wide and it’s been a problem everywhere. However, if you have a lot of credits then you should be fine Fall quarter when you are signing up for winter quarter because of priority.</p>

<p>The weather there is horrible, but the pricing is the cheapest I’ve ever seen. I stayed there last week ( 90 degrees?!) and my friends rented a 4 bedroom/2 story house for only $550 each. The place looks brand new, has a pool, and is beautiful. The whole street they live on is 70% students who all are paying around the same price.</p>

<p>Yeah I wouldn’t sign up for the honors challenge. However, UCD does give a lot of opportunities for undergrad research with a lot of academic support. If you can get that plus departmental honors, then you’re basically set. I didn’t go to UCD’s orientation so I don’t know how much they talked about the honors programs or honors societies outside of the regular honor’s challenge.</p>

<p>One of my friends is a transfer econ major from UCSC, so when he got into UCD there were some issues with course work. He said he went up to one advisor during orientation to ask if they could formally do a complete evaluation of his UC transcript to see if his courses could qualify for some lower div work. The very next day he said he got an email with every single course he’s taken and what their course equivalence is at Davis. He did not have to petition one course because they personally searched and found every syllabus for his course and tried to match it to their own (usually all UCs make you do this on your own via petition). I was REALLY impressed with that email they gave him and I’m not sure I can name any university that would do that with such speed and personal attention.</p>

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<p>AirJordan64,</p>

<p>UCD is different, their deferment is really simple and straight ahead (at least in writing) which I am grateful for. When I put it to the test later this month, I will report my experience here for anyone else who might be concerned or in the same position. </p>

<p>I’d love to carry on through summer session at UCD and I really don’t think it should invalidate my deferment. My logic in thinking this is that since I qualify for reduced tuition as a continuing UC Student during summer quarter they would not grant my deferment and only a leave of absence for a quarter. </p>

<p>Since, everything up to know has gone wrong so I am being REALLY cautious with this process, besides hitting the form up for info experiences, I have also contacted my departmental adviser Friday (waiting for a response) and will contact admissions once the 15th passes and my transcripts are processed with all work transferred in since I WILL be deferring, period. The question is just, when?</p>

<p>Honestly, taking a whole year to go back through the CC to UC transfer is something that even if feasible I will avoid, I’d like to transfer to UCI if possible and start in Winter. I have been doing directed studies with professors, and my main motive for staying in CC was to take advantage of Cross Enrollment discounts at UCLA and UCSB (the film studies classes were OUTSTANDING).</p>

<p>At this point I am not sure that UCI is completely different the UCD with regards to course availability but It would not require me to relocate and I have the option of possibly returning to UCLA to take additional coursework if everything is full at UCI, also I work in the entertainment business (and folded on my job for fall to transfer up to Davis this summer) at least down here I can work and pull in a respectable amount to live on if I have to linger for a quarter and take throw away classes, I can pay tuition out of pocket instead of drawing aid. </p>

<p>I agree with you that this is a system wide problem, all the lights point in this direction and no school (Merced?) really seems free from the tightening budgetary constraints. I certainly think departments like Art will naturally be hit the hardest too in comparison to say Engineering or Computer Science. My other option is to leave the UC system, but with out of state or private school tuition and the structure of their GE to gamble with, I do not feel entirely comfortable doing so. Though I have not ruled it out. </p>

<p>As for housing, I was hoping to live alone (ever since I left my ex I am liking this more and more for obvious reasons) and the apartments I looked at in Davis were terrible at best. The landlords were difficult (one reminded me of Billy Bob Thornton’s character in Uturn) and few property management agencies seemed like they were really going out of their way to answer questions. It was difficult to find decent 1 bedrooms under $1,200 (I rent a whole 2 bedroom guest house for $1,450 in LA) and all seemed to have 13 month leases, paper thin walls, or just suffered noticeable neglect that was not going to be tended to prior to move in. Perhaps I have to adapt to this, but it certainly left a bad taste in my mouth. Actually, I didn’t find the weather THAT bad. </p>

<p>With regards to the presentations, they didn’t mention anything beyond honors challenge but my adviser threw out the idea of departmental honors after reviewing my transcripts prior to registration if I am able to sustain my upwards momentum(without working 50 hours a week how hard can that be?). It certainly is of interest, but I do think the university finds it novel that an artist has actual interest in academic research. </p>

<p>Prior to transfer, I had really positive experiences at UCD and I shot down both CAL and UCLA to attend Davis cause of things like the college town environment and community, the strong faculty in my department (my feelings are unchanged on this and I love my department), but the moment I got my acceptance letter it just all went sour otherwise. It is such a miserable tease to have exciting outstanding faculty to work with in my dept - who seem excited to have me coming in, and no way to even wait-list their classes. To take a week off, and try to put everything in motion up there and hit stumbling block after block, well I know I can do MUCH better then to compromise and tolerate such poor support for incoming students from the institution. I never sensed anything like this at UCLA or UCSB as I try to be critical and consider if I really expect to much from this whole situation, there may be some truth there but all it does is encourage me to find something superior. Perhaps, I might be best biting the bullet and leaving the UC system all together…</p>

<p>Thanks for your words.</p>