UChicago and test optional

^ Part of that is true, the rest might be a creative yarn. According to the rags, Pitt isn’t even part of the college decision process for this kid.

"@JBStillFlying - hey, wooing celeb kids to apply worked for Brown… "

-Well, now, isn’t that a high ideal. And all the Brown posters will now like UChicago . . .

“Let’s face it, lots of potential (and current) students feel tickled that a Jolie-Pitt or an Emma Watson would choose their school. It definitely helps applications.”

  • No doubt as to either. But schools historically have kept student voices out of the admissions process for a good reason. And increasing apps. due to the "lovestruck" factor is a tad cheesy.

“And Nondorf is much better at wooing these types of kids than most.”

  • Agree.

^ I truly loved Brad Pitt in River Runs through It. He practically stole the show. A very talented actor. And he and George Clooney might now have something more in common than Oceans’ 11 and Burn after Reading (both fairly enjoyable movies and Pitt unexpectedly great in the latter).

@kaukauna , there could be a tad of extrapolation from the bare facts. It seems to me, however, that I did read somewhere that they had met and formed a friendship. The film came out in 1992 and Maclean died in 1990, so if it happened at all, it might have been at some preliminary stage of the process. I do know that Maclean was very concerned that the film not be an embarrassment, and the story is in essence a lament for a beloved lost brother. Maclean would have been especially concerned to get that character right on the screen. He turned down some prior offers. Redford convinced him that he could do the directorial job, and Pitt does seem the perfect embodiment of Paul as cool and gifted golden boy - he even resembles Paul… So why not?

^ Pitt was also relatively unknown at the time. It was his first major movie (I think he might have been in Thelma and Louise beforehand but not as prominent a role).

Would a young Brad Pitt take on the same character given his fame today? Would MacLean/Redford even see him the same way? Pitt is talented but I suspect his personal life interferes with getting a better read on the guy.

Re: Faculty attitudes to celebrity students

A few anecdotes. Granted, these do not involve the University of Chicago, and they mostly involve students whose achievements were their own, not their parents’.

  1. When I was at Stanford Law School, Bill Walton applied. Faculty members were falling over each other to meet him (and to play pick-up basketball with him). They would have strangled the chair of the Admissions Committee if Walton hadn't been accepted. (He was, but he dropped out after a few months.)
  2. My uncle was on the Harvard Medical School admissions committee when Olympic skater John Misha Petkevich applied. He was qualified, but his application, without the Olympic silver medal, would not have been considered seriously. No one on the committee opposed admitting him.
  3. I took a course during one summer session in college on nonprofit enterprise, taught by a law professor who had chaired the board of a then-top-10 foundation for a decade. Over the course of the class, it emerged that one of the people in the class, a visitor from another college, was a granddaughter of the person who had founded a brand-name operating charity. It was still her family's main charity, and her uncle was its executive director. She was beautiful, smart, and had given a great deal of thought to issues that arise in institutional philanthropy, or discussed them around the dinner table. The professor was overjoyed. Before the reveal, she had been an important participant in a pretty small class, but after it the class was essentially a dialogue between the professor and her. (Nothing going on between them, besides education. But the class had more practical importance and immediacy to her than to any other students, and she knew a lot more than we did, too.) Everyone benefited from her perspective. It was a great class.
  4. You think people didn't like having Ronan Farrow in their classes?
  5. Alan Dershowitz reportedly offered Netalee Herschlag a research assistanceship based on her performance in a college class Dershowitz taught, and was somewhat stunned to find out she was Natalie Portman.

^ TLDR: celebrity kids can be smart too. Some can be brilliant.

As long as they don’t wear Canada Goose I’m fine with any celebrity.

@Skyrior - you’ll be happy to know that in a photo on SociaLife Chicago, when Maddox visited NYU in February he was wearing a North Face coat…

Californians don’t do Canada Goose. Not in SF Bay and not in Hollywood.

Its prob a thing from the other US regions that are well represented in the College. Their flagship stores are in the Northeast (3), Chicago, Canada(4), London, Tokyo, Hongkong and Beijing. Future Locations are Milan, Paris, Banff, Edmonton and Minneapolis.

In Canada “Canada Goose” is not a social signifier. The infamous white patch is on every shoulder of every nondescript office worker. Whereas the bird itself, honking brainlessly and befouling public spaces, is not regarded as a good representative of the country. If you want to make a fashion statement wear a not-new bomber jacket.

Those not new-bomber jackets have been cool for decades.

Sigh, I was hoping that AJ rumor was just a late April Fool’s joke but alas here is the proof:

http://www.socialifechicago.com/angelina-jolie-maddox-tour-university-of-chicago-campus/

If Maddox (whom I’d never heard of before this week) attends Chicago, then I, not yet having any evidence to the contrary, will assume that he has the values of those whose first choice college is Chicago. Which means he should be welcomed.

Definitely! Good for him for choosing a college based on academics and where he’ll have to work hard with all the other UChicago admits instead of the easier route at a place where he could coast. That choice implies very positive things about who he is and values.

Along those lines, I understand that it wasn’t malicious, that threads wander in unexpected ways but it’s unfortunate that a discussion of one person ended up in a “Test Optional” thread. None of us have any way of knowing if this particular person applied TO or instead has a 1600 SAT, but having this discussion in this thread implies that he is being admitted under different standards, which I think is unfair since we don’t know that.

I am still waiting for some indication how many non-submitting applicants were actually accepted. Because no one ever makes stuff up on College Confidential (ha-ha), we know that at least one applicant was accepted. How many more?

Also, are they asking that accepted students submit their test scores so that they can be included in admissions statistics? Some test-optional schools do that; others don’t. If they do, I speculate that the God of Admissions knows precisely how many people could be admitted with truly terrible test scores without affecting the 25th percentile test score numbers that are part of the college’s public record. The number of non-submitting applicants accepted will be less than that number. Probably a lot less.

Well, I’ll wildly guess that 10% of UChicago applicants are on CC, and since one is said to have been admitted test optional, that would lead me to 10 total TO admits. @JHS I doubt you get anything better than that here. Maybe UChicago will release that data but I highly doubt it.

"I am still waiting for some indication how many non-submitting applicants were actually accepted. Because no one ever makes stuff up on College Confidential (ha-ha), we know that at least one applicant was accepted. How many more?

@JHS - it’s not small. That information isn’t going to be shared by Admissions and the range I heard was pretty wide. But the low end was surprising.

“Also, are they asking that accepted students submit their test scores so that they can be included in admissions statistics? Some test-optional schools do that; others don’t. If they do, I speculate that the God of Admissions knows precisely how many people could be admitted with truly terrible test scores without affecting the 25th percentile test score numbers that are part of the college’s public record. The number of non-submitting applicants accepted will be less than that number. Probably a lot less.”

  • @JHS, No indication they will do this. My son's "to do list" specified that, for those who DID submit test scores as part of their application, please make sure official versions are sent along to the Admissions Office. No test score directions for those who didn't submit scores as part of the application.

“None of us have any way of knowing if this particular person applied TO or instead has a 1600 SAT, but having this discussion in this thread implies that he is being admitted under different standards, which I think is unfair since we don’t know that.”

-TO is actually NOT a different standard, regardless of whether Maddox Jolie-Pitt was admitted this way.