UCLA #11 USC #73 on WUR 2010

Colleges and Universities A-Z University of Southern California
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<p>I appreciate your opinions - but you guys keep posting anecdotal commentary as your argument against USC’s reputation (either bad or non existence). Your circle of friends does not make an effective research sampling. I posted facts that seem to contradict this point of view. </p>

<p>But you are correct to differentiate between academic reputation in academic circles and the general public. The former has proven to be much more unyielding in their assessment of USC’s position in higher education - but that does seem to be changing every so slowly as you stated.</p>

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<p>to address red_devils’ comment, USC does not offer any scholarship money or financial aid to international undergraduate students. They must pay their own way, all of it.</p>

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<p>From the start I already quoted it’s my own sample of “word of mouth”,
and I never claimed it’s effective research sampling
that you kept saying I’m claiming.<br>
How can 20-30 people be any kind of effective research
sampling anyway? Unless I push an official $million research survey of
“Do you know SC?” through the country and the world population. Because
I don’t see any official research survey being done specifically on Europe or Asia
or NY on their perception/knowing of SC’s name, so best can only
bring from my own experience.</p>

<p>Or I can ask my SC friends in NY to testify here one by one…</p>

<p>But who said “anecdotal word of mouth’s” not of any indicatory value
here to share. I have no intention and obligation
to “prove” anything here by my anecdotal, but just a sharing
from my own true experience that’s it, no more no less.</p>

<p>Such dream colleges data facts fair enough, but just exactly
show the laggings and discrepancy in reality (to me at least,
as I can’t prove you my perceived reality)</p>

<p>In fact all the beauty-contest rankings are exactly based
on heavy data and own-set methodology research survey to recruiting
companies, high school counselors, peer colleges professors and researchers… Yet they’re
all still bashed exactly for being subjective, arbitrary or even nonsense
whenever the ranking’s too low to be “liked”. So we all know that
there’s really no official valid way to best please/prove to
everyone even with full data.
As statistics 101 taught us in the first class –>
statistics == data to be manipulated to sell to people idea in a preferred way.</p>

<p>[So</a> long, spoiled children - Los Angeles Times](<a href=“http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jul/10/opinion/oe-long10]So”>So long, spoiled children)
This quoted from LA Times, so no way anecdotal.</p>

<p>[List</a> of Nobel laureates by university affiliation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia](<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nobel_laureates_by_university_affiliation]List”>List of Nobel laureates by university affiliation - Wikipedia)
This quoted is objective data, so not anecdotal.</p>

<p>Financial aid’s for US residents only, so makes sense.
But no $scholarship offered to international students? Anyway I just learned that…
ok fine…</p>

<p>Not to take credit away from SC’s rise in the past decade or 2
to reform from the past 60-year school-past-level&image. The lagging
just shows that reformations don’t happen overnight, still long way to go
but good direction.</p>

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<p>international students are eligible for merit-based aid, but not need-based aid.</p>

<p>[International</a> Students - USC Undergraduate Admission](<a href=“http://www.usc.edu/admission/undergraduate/apply/inter_students.html]International”>http://www.usc.edu/admission/undergraduate/apply/inter_students.html)</p>

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<p>Bumping an old thread, but the new THE rankings came out a couple of weeks ago.</p>

<p>USC moved up 18 spots to 55.</p>

<p>Interesting to note what’s happened at USC in the past year, especially in light of comments made approximately a year ago in this thread.</p>

<p>USC now has 3 Nobel laureates on faculty (though Gell-Mann is concurrently affiliated with other institutions). USC also recently concluded its Global Conference in Hong Kong. And per Georgia Girl, the College has hired numerous professors hailing from thoughout the US and also Europe.</p>