<p>Hi fellow Bruins so just the other day and a very good day it was I got accepted into UCLA and I probably will be attending the school once I get rejected from Berkeley Ivies and Duke next week. I will probably be rejected by Berkeley Ivies and Duke because I am Asian and my scores are mediocre and because yesterday I got waitlisted by Chicago so it looks like I will probably be going to UCLA. Right now I am signing up for AP exams and because I will be attending UCLA I will be basing the AP exams I will take off of the AP credit site found here: AP</a> Credit - College of Letters and Science - UCLA Undergraduate Admissions</p>
<p>So far in my high school career and a very wretched career it is I have gotten scores of fives on AP Calculus BC Biology, Physics B and Chemistry. As I scrutinized the site in a stealthy fashion I discovered two peculiarities I had questions on and my first question is the credit I will get for AP Chemistry. Because I got a 5 on the AP Chemistry exam does that I mean I will get 16 units in total according to the site meaning it will cover both Intro and General chemistry? My second question is on the AP English Language and AP English Composition exams which I will surely be taking this spring sometime in May and my question is if I get 5s on both exams is that a total of 16 units I get for UCLA because on the heading parenthesis it said "8 Units Max for Both Exams" and I was confused about whether it meant each individual English test had a max of eight units making a total of 16 units if I get fives on both or if it meant that if I get fives on both exams I will get only eight units for the two exams taken. These questions along with the college admission process in general is stressing me out which may probably explain the frantic way I am writing and it will be great if you warm blooded Bruins can answer my question and thank you.</p>
<p>Turn that frown upside down!! You just got into ucla!! 
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<p>Anyways pretty much everything your teachers taught you about the benefits of taking AP tests are lies. At UCLA at least, most AP tests don’t count for anything besides empty “credits” which only count towards your official class standing (freshman sophomore etc) which help you get a better enrollment time. </p>
<p>The most beneficial AP tests to take in terms of actually getting you credit for an equivalent class (and thereby satisfying possible major prereqs or GEs) are language exams (except spanish lit), english exams, calculus AB or BC (you need a 5 on AB or 4-5 on BC), and econ. In other words, any of the AP tests in that chart that have an equivalent title/course NUMBER listed are ones that actually get you course credit. </p>
<p>For Chem AP, there are two listings, a score of 3 will get you “introductory” credit and 4-5 will get you “general” chem credit— neither mean anything really but you only get 8 units total depending on whether you got a 3 or 4-5. You still have to take basic chem if your major requires.</p>
<p>Hopes this helps, AP credits are so confusing!</p>
<p>5 on BC = Math 31A & 31B (8 units)
5 on Chem = 8 units that don’t apply toward anything
5 on Bio = 8 units that don’t apply toward anything
5 on Physics B = 8 units that don’t apply toward anything</p>
<p>So from those 4 tests you’ll get 32 units and credit for Math 31A and 31B. Keep in mind that sophomore standing is 45 units, so you’ll likely reach sophomore standing by the end of Fall quarter (unless you are coming in with additional AP/IB/Community College credits than you listed)</p>
<p>What about the AP English Exams (AP English Language and AP English Composition). Do I get 8 units for each or 8 units for both of them together if I get 5s on them?</p>
<p>You’ll only get credit for the English AP once, even if you pass both versions of the exam. A 4 or 5 on either exam gets you out of English Comp 3. So at most you’ll get 8 units.</p>
<p>Let’s say you get a 3 on Lit and a 4 on Lang. They’ll give you credit for the 4 on Lang, since it’s the “better” of the two.</p>
<p>Any passing score will get you 8 units (although the units you get for a 3 don’t apply towards English Comp 3)</p>
<p>Alican:</p>
<p>My son will have taken 14 AP courses by the time he graduates in June from high school.</p>
<p>I am trying to ascertain whether this would allow him to graduate from UCLA early, or whether it will simply allow him to take less courses each semester.</p>
<p>I am also trying to ascertain whether earning AP credits in 14 courses will reduce the overall tuition bill.</p>
<p>@floridadad55:</p>
<p>It depends on which exams he takes, what scores he gets on those exams, and what his major is. For example, a student might get 5’s on Psych, Microeconomics, and Macroeconomics, which will give them course credit for Psych 10, Econ 1, and Econ 2, respectively. However, if you are not in a major that doesn’t require any of those classes, then it’s not useful (they don’t count as GEs either).</p>
<p>The easiest way to graduate in less than 4 years is to take heavy courseloads during the school year and also take summer school, either at a community college (which I think you can only do up until you reach 105.0 units) or at a 4-year school.</p>
<p>In some majors, like Chemical Engineering, it is very difficult to graduate early because certain courses are only offered once a year, and due to prerequisites, there are courses that must be taken in the Spring quarter of the senior year. So even if a student has gotten a quarter or two “ahead” by taking summer school, they would still have to wait until spring to graduate because of that one last class.</p>
<p>For most social science and humanities majors it’s pretty easy to graduate early, even with a minor or sometimes double major.</p>
<p>Here are the AP’s I took and the credit I got. I’m an EE in the HSSEAS.</p>
<p>AP English Language, 5 - English Comp 3, only 1 AP English test will get you out of this. Taking both gives you free credit which adds to your unit total, but doesn’t get you out of requirements.
ENGCOMP 3 ENGL COMP-RHET&LANG 8.0</p>
<p>AP Calculus BC, 5 - 31A,B (Calc AB gets you out of 31A)
MATH 31A DIFF&INTGL CALCULUS 4.0
MATH CALCULUS 4.0 </p>
<p>AP Chem, 5 - Chem 20a (14a for life science majors)
CHEM GENERAL 8.0 </p>
<p>AP US History, 4, nothing, empty unit, fulfilled American History/Institutions requirement to apply to UCLA
HIST UNITED STATES 8.0 </p>
<p>AP Biology, 5 - random science elective credit, doesn’t do squat for me
LIFESCI UNASSIGNED 8.0 </p>
<p>AP Physics B - doesn’t get you out of anything, you need to take Physics C to get out of Physics 1a and/or 1b
PHYSICS GENERAL ‘B’ 8.0<br>
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Total Non-UC Transferred 48.0</p>
<p>@floridadad: Basically APs give you units which increase your class standing which gives you a better enrollment time. They do not count towards GE’s. They may get you out of some classes (English 3, calculus, a language, etc…). It is possible to graduate early without APs. He will not be able to take less classes each quarter (they are on the quarter system, not semester) because, regardless of how many AP units you come in with, you are still required to take a minimum number of units each quarter and every other quarter your “expected cumulative progress” is tracked. If you fall below you have to go see a counselor to make a plan to get back on track.</p>