<p>I got pre-BizEcon for UCLA and I really want to go, but I'm just worried that it'd be hard to find a job--or, a good job. BizEcon isn't exactly business administration; it's just economics with accounting, and I've heard it's criticized a great deal. Also, UCLA is mostly known for its sciences/engineering majors, not for its BizEcon major, so I'm worried recruiters won't like it as much as a Business Administration major and whatnot.</p>
<p>What do current students think? How are the job prospects as a UCLA BizEcon major? Does anyone know where to find stats for percent of graduates who got job offers?</p>
<p>(My other choices are Emory U--known for its Goizueta School of Business--and NYU Stern. But I don't want to go to Stern because of no campus, antisocial people, weather, etc.)</p>
<p>wow, the OP actually addresses some of the stuff thats been lingering in my mind for a while too. Please, to current students/grads, help us out!</p>
<p>What specific fields would you both like to enter w/ your undergrad degree? And would either of you be amenable to obtaining an MBA?</p>
<p>I figure that if you’re going for a grad bus degree, taht it would be more beneficial if you didn’t take your degree in BusAd. Most people who attend grad management school at good to great programs don’t have undergrad degrees in bus. </p>
<p>And if you take your BusAd degree and go for an MBA, there will be redundant courses. And most people who go for MBAs tend to go to improve their salary potential, whether they have undergrad degrees in bus or not.</p>
<p>Wrt job prospects, I don’t see what sector would hurt either one of you by having a Bus Econ degree rather than a BusAd degree. Either way, you’re going to have to work your way up, and learn within your work confines if you just have an undergrad degree.</p>
<p>@binks, Coolaid, zamr: Of course Stern > UCLA career-wise, but the quality of life at UCLA probably >>>>>> Stern. I’d like to have a traditional college experience, but I also want to find a good job, so I need to find a balance between those and decide what’s most suitable for me.</p>
<p>@drax: Yes I’m going to be doing an MBA but I’m paying for it myself, so my parents are urging me to find a good job after my undergrad to pay for grad.</p>
<p>@mission: Nope. Rejected ): Otherwise I wouldn’t be making this choice! Haha</p>
<p>Therefore, I’d still like to know about current UCLA bizecon/econ students/grads’ job prospects: How are the job prospects as a UCLA BizEcon major? Does anyone know where to find stats for percent of graduates who got job offers?</p>
<p>But yeah, in answer to the OP’s questions, does anyone know if there’s any sort of data that the UCLA career center keeps on this? I can’t find any, but it would be very interesting.</p>
<p>I just wish you could narrow down to a handful of business sector jobs for us.</p>
<p>And please don’t say, “accounting, big four” or however many prestigious firms they have in that field.</p>
<p>The majority of jobs straight out of college at those companies is staffed by Cal State people, so when they see UCLA or USC grads in their interview cycle, the management thinks ‘wow, ultra prestigious.’ </p>
<p>If you’re working in CA, I wouldn’t worry about it; you’ll find a great job in consulting, wherever. If you want to go to NYC and work on Wall St, then NYU’s stern would definitely pull more weight. </p>
<p>But since you’d be in the Econ Bus major, your gpa and quals when you graduate will be top-of-the-line; the weed-out nature of the major wrt grades ensures graduates a good standing.</p>
Prestige doesn’t matter nearly as much as people think it does. It’s not like they won’t interview both applicants because the difference seriously isn’t significant enough not to. Your career will mostly be dependent on your individual abilities.</p>
<p>I think it’s more the placement that matters because of course UCLA is closer to LA, and NYU is in NYC so that’s why. But yes, I agree, your career only goes as far as your individual abilities.</p>
<p>I’m still wondering about the job retention data from UCLA. Any takers?</p>
<p>When contacting the Econ/BizEcon career counselor back in Feb to inquiry the internship/job placement data for busi econ major, I was told “The Department does not collect specific data on the internship and job offers that students accept”.</p>
<p>Later on, however, I found this link myself by some key words search on UCLA website -
2009 senior survey of college of L & S: (no major breakdown)
The response rate is 52%
Under “Post Graduation Plan” - 41% full time employment, 34% graduate school, etc.
[Senior</a> Survey - UCLA College of Letters and Science](<a href=“http://www.college.ucla.edu/seniorsurvey/index.html]Senior”>http://www.college.ucla.edu/seniorsurvey/index.html)</p>
<p>Don’t understand why it’s hard for them to break down for each major/department and give me a ballpark number.</p>
<p>Why is it hard? Individual departments don’t take the surveys themselves. Data is isolated. Depending on the survey system, it may be hard for them to extract out major data if it’s a written field as opposed to a selectable field. In any case, the data will show selection bias wherever you go. (people who aren’t getting jobs/going somewhere aren’t going to respond)</p>
<p>I wouldn’t want to give you a ballpark # just in case I was wrong, and therefore misleading you.</p>
<p>Do senior fill out their major and degree in the survey? That information can be used to yield the major break down from the college wide survey.</p>
<p>Edit - well you said it’s hard, I’ll take it at face value.</p>
<p>Also regarding “people who aren’t getting jobs/going somewhere aren’t going to respond”, that’s understandable and nothing bias or misleading, since one should always pay attendtion to response rate. If a college doesn’t post response rate, that’s misleading. As a fact, 52% is not a bad response rate. College have no control who will response, who will not.</p>
<p>Yeah, I mean, the market has picked up, all of my peers in my consulting student organization’s leadership team have jobs/offers for this summer or for full-time. We’re half Bizecon and half south campus (Psych, psychobio, engineering, etc.)</p>
<p>Thanks, Deuces. You have been very helpful in providing information you have in all your previous posts and answer questions.</p>
<p>I have no doubt that the top student, the ones in the leadship team have outstanding job placement/internship opportunities. However, I believe many perspective students/parents are interested, in terms of number/percentage, how many are in the leadership program, what are the job outlook for the middle 50% of graduating class. And that is the reason I posted the senior survey link. </p>
<p>A few things I want to note regarding the senior survey: 1) 2009 is a tough year for all graduates across all campus, historical data should be more meaningful 2) UCLA’s College of L & S have many pre-med/pre-law, that should be considered when looking at the full employment %. Acturally, I would use the “still look for employment” number if compare to other colleges, since UCLA have a high amount to continue further studies upon graduation.</p>