<p>how does ucla engineering compare to that of ucsd and ucd?</p>
<p>Oh yeah another question, how does AP credit work? After high school, I will have finished 4 AP classes: Government, Comp Sci AB, Calc B/C, Chemistry, and possible thinking of Macro or Micro econ. If I passed all of these, which ones would actually give me credit? I looked on the UCLA site, but I couldn't really understand what the credits were being assigned to or if I could get rid of any GEs at all.</p>
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Look through pages 20-25 of this thread, (assuming you have the standard posts per page setting), for rankings in the various departments, viet*sta*. In other words, read the <strong><em>ing 44 pages of this thread before asking questions, *</em></strong>.</p>
<p>killernago, click here.
I'll give you an example so that it might make more sense:
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4-5 ENGCOMP 3 8.0 SA
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This means you get out of English 3 with a score of either 4 or 5. The other things that say "unassigned" or just the subject area but not a particular course just give you free units and absolutely nothing else.</p>
<p>UCLA</p>
<p>Undergraduate Ranking:</p>
<h1>19 overall</h1>
<h1>16 in Aerospace/Aeronautical Engineering</h1>
<h1>16 in Computer Engineering</h1>
<h1>13 in Electrical Engineering</h1>
<h1>18 in Environmental Engineering</h1>
<h1>17 in Materials Engineering</h1>
<h1>22 in Mechanical Engineering</h1>
<p>Student Body:
2300 undergraduates
1300 graduate students (500 master's; 800 doctoral)</p>
<p>1504/5808 admits (26%)
426/1504 yield (28%)</p>
<p>UCSD</p>
<p>Undergraduate Ranking:</p>
<h1>19 overall</h1>
<h1>3 in Biomedical Engineering</h1>
<h1>20 in Computer Engineering</h1>
<h1>17 in Electrical Engineering</h1>
<h1>19 in Mechanical Engineering</h1>
<p>Student Body:
4300 undergraduates
1000 graduate students (400 master's; 600 doctoral)</p>
<p>3578/8001 admits (44%)
993/3578 yield (27%)</p>
<p>Is there any point of getting free units if they don't get you out of any classes? For example,</p>
<ul>
<li>Computer Science AB 3-5 COM SCI Unassigned 4.0<br></li>
</ul>
<p>I would just get free units, but it wouldn't get me out of the intro comp sci class?</p>
<p>It helps you with class standing (ie with 45 units, you're a sophomore and get better enrollment times, etc).</p>
<p>woot for soph standing!!! :)</p>
<p>and yergh... emmeline aka the girl on my floor... take it easy on the noObs we were new members once too xD</p>
<p>What devr said. More units means earlier advancements in class standing. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Hi. Trying to decide between UCLA and USC in ME. Can you compare UCLA in these things that USC engineering students say they are happy about at USC? What you are happy about in your UCLA program? I know about cultural, location and cost differences - I'm talking about academic program.</p>
<p>From USC:
1. No weeding out.
"The biggest thing I can think of is that UCLA/UCSD/etc, based on what my friends tell me, it feels like they're trying to purposefully weed people out of engineering. Here at USC, even though it's still very rigorous (and people do change majors out, too) they give a lot of support along the way."</p>
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<li><p>Tutoring.
"Most of the freshman engineering, math, and science requirements have supplementary group instruction sessions taught by upperclassmen who took that class previously - there's free individual tutoring also for those classes - as well as places like the math center where you can just "walk in" and ask whoever's there for help, either professors, grad students, or other undergrads. So they really, really try to help every student pass."</p></li>
<li><p>Easy to change majors.
"There's not a strange idea of an "impacted" major here. If you're accepted to engineering, you're accepted to engineering, no matter what. If you get into, say, Industrial and Systems Engineering but want to do Biomedical or Electrical (or both!!), then you can just change just like that, no application or anything necessary, just meet with an advisor and get them to punch it in the system."</p></li>
<li><p>Advising.
"There are walk-in advisement sessions at several points in the year, and to meet with one at another time i could just schedule an appointment Plus, beyond the first meetings with the general engineering advisors, your department advisor is really accessible - most of them are really responsive to emails and appointment requests, and are pretty open to unscheduled knocks on their doors if you just need something quick (if they're not busy) any time of year."</p></li>
</ol>
<p>From UCLA??? Thanks for your thoughts.</p>
<p>What does Engineering 183/185 teach you, and how is the workload?</p>
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Engineering 183: Engineering and Society is a seminar course covering ethical decisions made by key engineers from antiquity to the space race. It's not terribly rigorous, and its workload is the same as taking another Eng Comp 3 class. You write three essays of increasing length, while taking relatively open-ended midterms and finals. I don't know what Engineering 185 is like, though. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Hey for labs do people usually drop out of it? Should I even put myself on waitlist? And how Do I get PTE numbers for classes like math or science classes? Do the professors usually give them out?</p>
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The undergraduate engineering program at UCLA does contain weeder-courses, especially for Computer Science, Computer Science & Engineering, Electrical Engineering and Bioengineering majors. The most reputed weeders are CS 32, CS 33, CS 111, EE 10, EE 101 and the entire Bioengineering lower-division track. However, I should mention that such rigorous offerings are typically inescapable at top private schools as well as the top UCs, to ensure that matriculating students are the cream of the crop. This is what I love about the impacted majors: the competition is consistent, and grad schools/industry employers are aware of what UCLA graduates have gone through. Considering that UCLA originally designed its undergraduate engineering curriculum from that of UC Berkeley, this is to be expected (think EECS at UCB versus EECE at UCLA). I suspect that as USC becomes more academically competitive, it will eventually have to adopt weeder courses as well. Keep in mind, though, that as a prospective Mechanical Engineering major, you won't have to take these aforementioned courses, but you might have one or two weeders of your own. As for academic support, I can address that below in the following answer...</p>
<p> [quote=hiker] 2. Tutoring.
On-campus tutoring is abundant for engineers, and for South Campus majors in general. Similar to the "math center" you mentioned, UCLA has the Student Math Center in the Math Sciences building which is a public lounge where UCLA Mathematics graduate students offer drop-in tutoring for lower-division students with their homework and midterms, in addition to the tutoring offered at their office hours. The Computer Science department also has a drop-in tutoring room for CS 31/32/33 that has one or two TAs present throughout the day. The Engineering Society of UCLA offers student mentorship programs between upper/lower-division majors, and the engineering honor societies (TBP, HKN, UPE, etc.) also offer tutoring. As an on-campus resident, tutoring for South Campus courses is also offered in the residential halls as well as in Covel Commons. I know there's more tutoring programs out there, especially for undergraduates in general, but this is all I can think of right now.</p>
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Changing engineering majors at UCLA is easy as an entering freshman, but difficult as a sophomore and beyond. To change between engineering majors as a freshman, you need to submit an application to the Office of Academic and Student Affairs, at which point your original UC application will be re-evaluated in light of your new major choice. These are usually approved. In the latter case, however, you need to achieve a certain GPA (~3.50) to change majors, especially if it's into Computer Science, Computer Science & Engineering, Electrical Engineering or Bioengineering, which are impacted. The reason behind the "strange idea" of impacting such courses at UCB/UCLA/UCSD is to keep enrollments commensurate with the schools' available engineering faculty and support facilities. When ~3,000 students are applying just for these four majors at UCLA, raising the standards of admission actually avoids the "overcrowded lectures" that UCLA would otherwise be accused of having... :rolleyes:</p>
<p> [quote=hiker] 4. Advising.
Every engineering student is appointed one faculty advisor in the department of his/her major, as well as three academic counselors from the Office of Academic and Student Affairs. All four counselors provide their e-mail addresses and/or phone numbers via the internal CourseWeb under "My Advisors" for fast contact. Furthermore, every student is required to meet with his/her faculty advisor during junior year. Although the counseling appointments have to be scheduled (i.e. not drop-in), these appointments can be made very impromptu and I have been able to schedule them within less than 24 hours from the scheduling time.</p>
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No, people usually don't drop out of labs... Put yourself on the waitlist anyways, just in case. You have to get PTE numbers by asking your professor before/after lecture or during office hours during Week 1 of the quarter. No, they are usually not given out, unless you can prove that it's needed for you to graduate or something. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Should I waitlist even though I'm like 5th on the list? Will that many people drop for me to get in? I asked my roommate and other people that haev labs now and they said that no one dropped in their classes.</p>
<p>What do you have to lose by being on the waitlist? :rolleyes:</p>
<p>What if I'm on the waitlist and no one drops?</p>
<p>I thought engineering students are all kinda smart, at least not stupid, well...</p>
<p>Thanks Flopsy, for your thorough as usual answer to my question about how UCLA compares in the factors USC students consider their school's strengths. Anyone other pre-frosh facing the same choice, USC or UCLA now? It's a great choice to have!</p>