<p>At least he knew how to speak English ;)</p>
<p>Lately I've been hearing some Dartmouth and Northwestern Asian Americans saying that they wished they attended UCLA instead.</p>
<p>I knew too since I was 17:) And I can testify this thread is all ********:)</p>
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<p>God, this is probably the most ignorant post I've ever read. The NSC sucks? State Dept sucks? Sure, if you consider being at the top of your damn game sucking, then yeah.</p>
<p>Who is this John Kerry person that is rarely mentioned that I almost never hear about? I have a vague recollection, but I can't quite put my finger on it.</p>
<p>Some no-name senator from a little state in New England.</p>
<p>We gotta stop all the competition between the UC's. It anit helpin us one bit.
Berkeley has MIT, Caltech, and HYPMS to fend off.
UCLA has Berkeley.
UCSD has UCLA
UCI has UCSD
See a pattern? Only one UC consistently attracts Ivy Leagers, while all the rest of the UC's aren't helping.</p>
<p>What would really help is if LA and Berkeley help each other and attack the real enemies.</p>
<p>UCLA=Hot girls
UCBerkeley=Nasty people</p>
<p>I was pro-Kerry, but the guy has just receded into the shadows. I did see him talking a while ago, and he was (if possible) more boring than he ever was before. Maybe it was a good thing that he wasn't elected. He doesn't seem like a fighter.</p>
<p>Bubbles,</p>
<p>If UCLA is substandard to Cal, then why do we manage to keep our professors from leaving for Harvard and Yale just like Cal?</p>
<p>"Only one UC consistently attracts Ivy Leagers, while all the rest of the UC's aren't helping."</p>
<p>false. many students who have regents or alumni scholarships at ucla got into an ivy league too, but chose to come to ucla instead. the alumni scholars club president, molly, always gives her talk about how she wasnt sure which college to choose when she was a senior, and ended up giving up harvard and stanford and came to ucla instead. i'd say that's competing with ivy league.</p>
<p>UCLA is NOT substandard. It's just that we (students) ought to give potential students the facts rather than bash the other schools with generalizations.</p>
<p>As of now Berkeley tends to want to cooperate while UCLA wants to compete. Berkeley has other schools to worry about while UCLA seems to worry only about Berkeley. </p>
<p>That's the impression I get from most Cal and UCLA students, and it's gettin out of hand.</p>
<p>Eh, I wouldn't trust these boards anyway. I get the idea that most people here have fairly innaccurate notions of what is real and what is USNews fantasy.</p>
<p>"UCLA=Hot girls"
ok... thanks. that really helps me a lot...</p>
<p>and how did the topic suddenly switch to john kerry?!?!</p>
<p>anyways, no one has answered my question of which school has a better study abroad program. or one that is easier to get into. and also, how often would a Cal student be able to come back to So Cal? and how is the change in the environment? is it tough to get used to? are the people who go to the two schools really that different? </p>
<p>sorry, but its almost decision time.</p>
<p>^ I used to go back every winter, summer and spring break. You gotta say wussup to ur high school buddies, see parents etc... usually went back about 5-7 times a year. </p>
<p>I say Berkeley is a refreshing change of pace from LA. (Lived in Berkeley for 7 years, and 20 years or so in Los Angeles-south bay) Just like the LA glitzy scene is a change of pace for Bay Area high schoolers. But Berkeley is also quite different in itself from the rest of the Bay Area. </p>
<p>I say people from UCLA are a little bit more to themselves, slightly more concerned with popularity n image. Berkeley people are a little bit more chill and a little more about a journey through life finding themselves etc... </p>
<p>Most of my friends from LA who went to Berkeley ended up staying in the bay area after college. If any went back to LA it was because their parents wanted them back or because they took their time finding a job. Most people do not want to leave. I have never met a Cal grad who said they can't wait to go back to LA. That said, all of my LA friends love the Dodgers and sport Dodger Blue no matter how many SF Giant fans there are. </p>
<p>But living in San Francisco right now, I can honestly say I miss LA. My personal preference is Berkeley then LA then Orange County/SF. SF and the East Bay are different in environment. </p>
<p>Its not tough to get used to at all. Bay Area is probably the only place in the entire US that is as chill as LA. But after 2-3 months in SF, I miss LA. I never felt that way when I was in Berkeley though.</p>
<p>"anyways, no one has answered my question of which school has a better study abroad program."</p>
<p>all the UC's have the SAME study abroad program. toughness to get in vary by program, but in general, the better your school is, the more competitive to get in because more students want to do study abroad. </p>
<p>heres more info on the UC study abroad program, called EAP: <a href="http://eap.ucop.edu/%5B/url%5D">http://eap.ucop.edu/</a></p>
<p>Oh, and I have another question that doesn't relate to the topic at all. How long does it take to find the right major? About how many times do people change it? I don't understand how people find out what they want to do. During freshmen year, do they just go around sitting in different classes and see if they like it? How else are you supposed to know, if you don't already?</p>
<p>^ Just fill your pre-requisites your freshman year. Most people don't declare a major until their sophomore or junior year. You get a good idea of majors by talking with people from different majors etc... that is one of the best parts of college... finding out different perspectives, living and breathing the growing experience. I found that at Berkeley, the english majors were the most interesting people. At first I was Poly Sci, then Econ, and didn't like either too much. I thought Poly sci was too idealistic and not practical, and I thought Econ was too rigid and didn't explain most of the insightful situations in the modern day economy. I personally majored in PEIS and worked in tech investment banking and a macro hedge fund afterwards. I have never felt such a perfect fit with what I want to do in life ever. I am really happy with my major and career.</p>
<p>Whats PEIS? What could you do with an english major besides be a writer?</p>
<p>couldnt u go to law school... journalism.. etc?</p>