UCLA vs USC (Business & Econ majors/Haas Rejects)

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<p>Hello, I'm currently a community college student and I'm about to transfer. I got into UCLA as a Business-Economics major. I'm still waiting for USC(Marshall School of Bus.) decision this month. Unfortunately, I did not get in Berkeley's Haas School of Business.</p>

<p>What bugs me is that UCLA doesn't offer an undergraduate business program. In terms of recruitment what are the pros and cons of UCLA and USC? </p>

<p>I heard that USC's networking is far more superior than's UCLA. All suggestions and advices are welcome.</p>

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<p>USC’s networking is superior, but both programs are recruited by employers. I don’t have first-hand experience with both programs, but you should visit both schools and see how comfortable you feel. They are very different schools. Both are great programs, so congrats.</p>

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<p>bump for others. I know I’m not the only one in this situation.</p>

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<p>If money is not an issue, then I would go to USC just because its a degree from a legitimate B-school. UCLA’s bizecon is really just an economics degree offered by UCLA’s econ department with some business electives from Anderson B-school (mostly accounting tho). But both of the schools have good networking so you will be recruited anywhere you go.</p>

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<p>hey… fortune, when does USC starts making their decision out?
cuz I have a friend whos in accouting major, and she says that, her mom says that she already got the acceptance from USC… I was like… wth… so weird cuz I thought they starts letting people know by this month.</p>

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<p>USC is doing something different this year, and some people have already gotten their acceptance letters in the mail !! big props to them, i look forward to their decision >.<</p>

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<p>^ yep I guess they’ve become weary of the fact that making people wait til past June 1st is crazy because they have to commit to other schools. I hope I get my decision soon…</p>

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<p>Same here I really need to know, but I think at this rate I’m going to attend UCLA. </p>

<p>Hey grey, if you get into USC will you attend LA or USC? Did you also get rejected from Haas?</p>

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<p>I didn’t apply to Haas, nor UCLA haha.</p>

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<p>bumping this up for more advices and suggestions.</p>

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<p>what type of job are you looking to do?</p>

<p>ps. i didn’t get into ucla biz-econ but got into haas</p>

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<p>Congrats! Yeah I heard some people didn’t get into biz-econ, but got into Haas. I’m more interested into consulting & finance field.</p>

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<p>Your question is too general and broad. What are you planning to go into exactly?</p>

<p>Accounting? iBanking? Consulting? Marketing? Etc…</p>

<p>Need to know this before you can decide on recruitment opportunities. And yes, USC has better networking than UCLA because they have a full b-school at the undergrad level. However, UCLA has a better ranked MBA school (Anderson).</p>

<p>I’m Econ at UCLA. I have friends here working for the Big Four (accounting is bar far the most popular choice for Econ majors here), one interning with Disney, one interning with Smith Barney (citi), could go on for awhile… I just landed an internship in Management and Marketing with a video game company (a partner of THQ). I’ve been offered a referral for PwC on campus before and turned it down.</p>

<p>I don’t really understand why people discredit Business at UCLA, it hasn’t hindered me or my classmates at all. For the record my interviewer is from UChicago, so I don’t think he gave a **** about the difference between UCLA and USC.</p>

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<p>Thanks for the tips Amazing. I’m planning to go into Consulting. As for consulting which school would give me more opportunities? </p>

<p>I’m not discrediting Business at UCLA, but do you think there would be a slight disadvantage majoring in Business-Economics with a Business focus(Bus-econ)? As opposed to attending a school that offers a Business program. Classes such as organizational behavior etc. From what I’ve heard LA’s Biz-econ is more theoretical that it is practical. I would like to hear your thoughts.</p>

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<p>USC is ranked lower than UCLA, bottom line. There isn’t a ranking in the world that would place USC above UCLA. I take it you are planning to attend an MBA program after? If so, UCLA. Plus, I’m sure you have a better chance in getting into Haas MBA coming from within the UC System. I know they say, at that level, that no preference is given, but it certainly looks nicer to them. </p>

<p>I am also a Haas reject. Econ major at UCLA. or Econ at Davis. That is my unfortunate dilemma - i rejected UCSB, UCSD and UCSC. Davis is near my girl and family, but UCLA is a better school - so it’s a tough decision.</p>

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<p>“I’m planning to go into Consulting. As for consulting which school would give me more opportunities?”</p>

<p>USC’s undergrad b-school will give you more business related opportunities in general. Although how do you compare something as subjective and general as “opportunities”? Especially in a field like Consulting when most people don’t even know or understand what a consultant is. Now we’re digging even deeper, what kind of Consulting do you want to go into?</p>

<p>Lets say for example you wanna work for Deloitte, which I’m probably assuming is your goal anyways.</p>

<p>Source:
[Deloitte</a> LLP - United States - Careers - Job Search](<a href=“Careers | Deloitte US”>Careers | Deloitte US)</p>

<p>Tax Consultant, Financial Service Industry (Full-Time)
Requirements:
* Bachelor of Science/Business Administration, Master of Science in Accounting or Taxation, or JD or LLM Degree (with undergraduate accounting degree)
* Minimum requirements to sit for CPA exam before beginning full-time employment preferable
* Strong academic credentials
* Relevant work experience (e.g. internships, summer positions, school jobs)
* Demonstrated leadership, problem solving, and strong verbal and written communication skills
* Ability to prioritize tasks, work on multiple assignments, and manage ambiguity
* Ability to work both independently and as part of a team with professionals at all levels </p>

<p>Now lets break this down:
BS in Bus Admin - USC wins
CPA exam- Same
Academic creditials - UCLA wins, higher ranked
Work Experience - Same. Both schools have job/career fairs, this is all you
The rest- irrelevant</p>

<p>Conclusion: subjective question in the first place</p>

<p>Classes such as organizational behavior etc. From what I’ve heard LA’s Biz-econ is more theoretical that it is practical.</p>

<p>I am currently taking a class at the Anderson school. The title is “MGMT: Project Management and IT”. I just turned in a 10 page project plan and in class we are discussing issues in IT, etc… Overall LA is theoretical because Economics itself is theoretical. But if you are looking for practical classes they are there.</p>

<p>Also this is purely my opinion, but I argue that business classes are extremely theoretical anyways with the exception of Accounting and Finance. Business isn’t learned in a classroom… it’s learned in the workroom… For instance I’ll use your OB course example:</p>

<p>“Organizational Behavior (OB) is the study and application of knowledge about how people, individuals, and groups act in organizations. It does this by taking a system approach. That is, it interprets people-organization relationships in terms of the whole person, whole group, whole organization, and whole social system. Its purpose is to build better relationships by achieving human objectives, organizational objectives, and social objectives.”</p>

<p>“Autocratic - The basis of this model is power with a managerial orientation of authority. The employees in turn are oriented towards obedience and dependence on the boss. The employee need that is met is subsistence. The performance result is minimal.”</p>

<p>“Custodial - The basis of this model is economic resources with a managerial orientation of money. The employees in turn are oriented towards security and benefits and dependence on the organization. The employee need that is met is security. The performance result is passive cooperation.”</p>

<p>^^^ This is extremely theoretical and you would be naive to deny it.</p>

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<p>Loving the na</p>

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<p>He said ranked lower. This is objectively true.</p>

<p>[National</a> Universities Rankings - Best Colleges - Education - US News and World Report](<a href=“http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/national-search]National”>http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/college/national-search)
UCLA #25, USC #27</p>

<p>[url=<a href=“http://www.arwu.org/rank2008/ARWU2008_A(EN).htm]ARWU2008[/url”>http://www.arwu.org/rank2008/ARWU2008_A(EN).htm]ARWU2008[/url</a>]
UCLA #13, USC #50</p>

<p>Etc, etc…</p>

<p>Of course this has been argued since forever, but his statement is true.</p>

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<p>Yes I know, but “bottom line” rankings which abstract whole universities have zero to do with the recruitment issues that the original poster is asking about.</p>

<p>Recruitment opportunities are distinct from arbitrary rankings formulated by a for-profit corporation, wouldn’t you agree?</p>

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<p>Recruitment opportunities, yes different from rankings. Summing up what I said before, USC is a little better of course. However, we’re also talking about two famously rival schools in literally THE SAME CITY. It would be ridiculous to think that recruiters choose one school over the other. Just choose based on the entire school itself and not over marginal differences like rank and recruitment. There are many many other things that these schools have vast differences in…</p>

<p>This is a side note, but I’m going to have to argue that rankings aren’t arbitrary. Maybe in an idealistic world they are, but realistically speaking… rankings may be arbitrary to me, but not to my future employer.</p>