UCs Consider Charging More for Popular Campuses

<p>Back in the day, I chose SLO over UCLA, where I was also accepted. I liked breathing.</p>

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<p>Yet, more than 2 out of each three applicants to the UC system was accepted last fall. Out of 106,186 unduplicated applications, 72,432 made it. That is about a 68 percent admission rate.</p>

<p>By the way, similar numbers for the 23 CSUs for the Fall 2010 are 168,632 applications and 109,062 admissions with 26,073 incomplete and 24,631 denials.</p>

<p>Meh…</p>

<p>Overstated again… UCLA is 5-6 miles from the ocean, not under the heavy inversion layer that would encompass downtown and much of LA.</p>

<p>I grew up in So Cal. It’s all in the eye of the beholder.</p>

<p>I’ve read about kids with some strong stats and accepted to significantly more selective schools turned by UCSD. My info is from this board so how reliable this is , I don’t know. One big surprise of this years admissions for me in terms of kids I know is a young man accepted to UCLA and turned down by a number of like schools. Not a CA resident, international Asian student with very good but not great stats. I’m happy for him but a puzzled how that one happened. </p>

<p>Xiggi, the UC numbers include a lot of the less popular UCs, do they not? I haven’t looked at UCLA, Berkeley and UCSD numbers so I don’t know their selectivity. I also have no idea how selective they are for OOS kids. My take that they are difficult admissions and that is what we have actively been told by counselors. But since so few kids, I only know a very small number, apply to the UCs from the east coast, I’ve not looked into what the true selectivity is for those schools. Personally, I don’t see them as good deals given the cost and the size of them. Also, the name recognition other than Berkeley and UCLA is not that high. I know a number of grad level students who have considered them, but that is a whole other story.</p>

<p>I’m surprised that this is not already the policy in California.</p>

<p>It used to be pretty easy to correctly predict who would and wouldn’t get in to UCSD from our high school, because they used a well-known stat-driven point system to make the decisions. You could look at their algorithm and start adding up your points and see where you stood. But this year they went to holistic admissions, so it’s far less predictable. I saw several kids from our school who were good bets to be admitted in previous years who were denied this year.</p>

<p>The other problem here in the north county San Diego area is San Diego State. The northern border for being included in SDSU’s home area is now the 56 freeway. So if you live in say Carlsbad you might as well live in Redding as far as SDSU is concerned. You are an auslander.</p>

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<p>Here’s a link to the detailed numbers:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2011/fall_2011_admissions_table1.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2011/fall_2011_admissions_table1.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>The definition of less popular UCs is variable, except for Merced. That school, however, only attracts fewer than 13,000 applications. </p>

<p>Davis and Irvine attracts over 45,000 applications and accept about 45 percent of their students. And so does Santa Barbara (our of close to 50,000 students.) </p>

<p>We should remember that several of the UCs are listed on the first page of the USNews report. Again, less popular and less selective might have become blurred concepts.</p>

<p>Deborah,</p>

<p>The smog in L.A. was the reason I didn’t pursue a dance career in L.A. It made me ill.</p>

<p>Re. admissions for UCSD: I think College Board had it at around 47-50% last year and it now lists at around 36%.</p>

<p>Coureur,</p>

<p>Interesting observation. I still find it crazy that SDSU’s admit rate is 30%. About 99% of the kids in our community do one of three things: Don’t go to college, go to community college for a while and maybe transfer, or go to SDSU. Needless to say, we’re south of the 56. :-)</p>

<p>Does anyone know, is the smog level any better in LA these days? I haven’t been down there in forever!</p>

<p>Cpt, that’s an interesting chart Xiggi posted, but it lacks vital information needed to assess selectivity.</p>

<p>Selectivity, in terms of stats, can be found by looking at the common data set for each school, or for a quick run you can use the CollegeBoard College QuickFinder. Check out the Admission and SAT tabs. Below is what shows if you click on the SAT tab for a couple of schools. And remember, a school like Stanford may <em>choose</em> to turn away a student with higher stats because of outstanding qualities another student has that go far beyond an extra 100 SAT points.</p>

<p>Examples:
UC Davis
[College</a> Search - University of California: Davis - UC Davis - SAT®, AP®, CLEP®](<a href=“College Search - BigFuture | College Board”>College Search - BigFuture | College Board)</p>

<p>Cal Poly SLO
[College</a> Search - California Polytechnic State University: San Luis Obispo - Cal Poly - SAT®, AP®, CLEP®](<a href=“College Search - BigFuture | College Board”>College Search - BigFuture | College Board)</p>

<p>It’s nice when schools provide a breakdown like the one I’ve got linked below, that give a better idea which departments within a school have super selective admissions.</p>

<p>[Prospective</a> Students - Admissions - Cal Poly](<a href=“Cal Poly Admissions”>Cal Poly Admissions)</p>

<p>Hope someone finds this helpful!</p>

<p>drax:</p>

<p>sure, cash is fungible. There would be no reason to raise fees at one campus if the state was going to reduce it’s contribution dollar for dollar. OTOH, who knows what will happen given what purports to be leadership in Sacto… :rolleyes:</p>

<p>Your last link is undoubtedly a weighted scale, the one that shows mean gpa of 3.84.</p>

<p>If we take the weights off, it’d probably come out to be ~ 3.44-3.54, say, .30-.40 weighted gpa points.</p>

<p>I hear ya, bluebayou.</p>

<p>How come there are so much Cal Poly bashing on CC?</p>

<p>Something about Cal Poly seems to really evoke a lot of visceral negativity from people on CC.</p>

<p>drax: </p>

<p>the 3.84 for Cal Poly is printed on their CDS. It should be UNweighted, unless they can’t read/follow instructions.</p>

<p>Don’t both UC and Cal State systems have particular formulas for calculating GPA for admissions, btw? We no longer live in CA and my daughter didn’t apply to any CA state schools so I’m not versed on that off the top of my head. Not going to take the time to look it up either. Comparing SAT scores is pretty straightforward.</p>

<p>bluebayou…</p>

<p>Absolutely positive it’s weighted. 3.84 is ~ 4 A’s and 1 B average. This would be higher than UCLA’s, 3.81 and close to Cal’s 3.85+. </p>

<p>The evidence, looking at profiles of SLO’s admits from various hss, doesn’t support a 3.84 uw gpa. </p>

<p>And we know taht UCLA can’t read the CDS either, with it showing ~4.24. ;)</p>

<p>The 3.84 GPA is UNweighted on Deborah T’s link for enrolled students.</p>

<p>Here is the raw data for admitted students from Cal Poly database:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.ess.calpoly.edu/_admiss/Pdf/Profile10_51910.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ess.calpoly.edu/_admiss/Pdf/Profile10_51910.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Just look at the source data dude.</p>

<p>The admission stats for CP is almost identical to that of UCD’s (this opinion is coming directly from the Cal Poly’s admission staff). So if you insist that CP’s data is weighted, then you need to look at UCD’s.</p>

<p>drax, you don’t need to fight a battle you <em>know</em> you’re going to win. You’ve heard of school loyalty, haven’t you? Read my posts in the spirit they were intended. :-)</p>

<p>You don’t need to defend UCLA’s reputation.</p>

<p>fermium - Wow! Pretty killer getting in engineering this year!</p>