UCs mirroring Ivies

<p>UC Berkeley = Harvard
UCLA = Yale
UC San Diego = Princeton
UC Santa Cruz = Brown
UC Davis = Dartmouth
UC Santa Barbara = Cornell
UC Irvine = Columbia
UC Riverside = UPenn
UC Merced = too new to determine</p>

<p>What do you think? :D</p>

<p>I think these comparisons are silly considering the UCs are unlike the Ivy League universities in every way. For example, you compare Berkeley to Harvard. Berkeley is probably most well known for its Engineering school while Harvard couldn’t have a more limited, mediocre Engineering program.</p>

<p>Yeah, sorry, but this makes no sense. These colleges are all very different in respect to strengths, selectivity, weather, prestige, and so many more factors… it would be comparing apples to oranges. It’s just sort of odd, really.</p>

<p>Sigh. I really should’ve put “just for fun” in the thread title…</p>

<p>@engineerbill - That’s a good comparison, actually.</p>

<p>The UC still have a mission to “educate the masses” which is why they accept many kids with stats that would rarely get considered at an ivy.</p>

<p>For instance, I know 2 kids who got accepted to Berkeley this week who probably would have been quickly rejected from all ivies.</p>

<p>mom2collegekids Ouch that hurts . . .</p>

<p>How about by resources… :p</p>

<p>Berkeley = Michigan
UCLA = Wisconsin
UCSD = Illinois; both have great engineering programs (perhaps Purdue as well)
UCD (aggies) = MSU (aggies); both with roughly $450 million research expendicture (not counting FRIB…)
UCI+UCSB+UCSC+UCR+UCM = Minnesota, PSU, TOSU, respectively</p>

<p>If I throw in Stanford = NU/Chicago; Washington = PSU, TOSU, Minnesota; then we have another Big Ten — PAC 10. Of course, we can now upgrade to BIG TEN (12) — PAC 12 thread with Colorado, Utah & Nebraska being added to each respective conference. :)</p>

<p>^^ Surely, I do. :)</p>

<p>Nonetheless, instead of “UCs mirroring Ivies” as the thread title suggested, I believe that it would be more appropriate to compare them with the Big Ten universities. And since some of the UCs listed above are not part of the PAC 12 or academically to the same capacity of say… ‘UDub,’ therefore, I brought up the idea of PAC 12 mirroring BIG TEN (12) instead.</p>

<p>^^ My apologies. I was just trying to be overly complete… Perhaps, you can give it a try as well…</p>

<p>Anyhow, one thing for certain though,</p>

<p>UC-Merced = PSU-Abington, PSU-Altoona, OSU-Newark, OSU-Marion,…etc. in terms of # faculties, endowments and student body.</p>

<p>CommonIntuition, how ironic your name is.</p>

<p>Here’s ill fix what your intuition has done:
UC Berkeley = Harvard / 20
UCLA = Yale/20
UC San Diego = Princeton / 30
UC Santa Cruz = Brown / 40
UC Davis = Dartmouth / 1000
UC Santa Barbara = Cornell / 20
UC Irvine = Columbia / 30
UC Riverside = UPenn / 1000
UC Merced = Tufts / 4</p>

<p>In terms of social scene I think Cal and Columbia are more similar than Harvard and Cal.</p>

<p>*The UC still have a mission to “educate the masses” which is why they accept many kids with stats that would rarely get considered at an ivy.</p>

<p>For instance, I know 2 kids who got accepted to Berkeley this week who probably would have been quickly rejected from all ivies. </p>

<p>mom2collegekids Ouch that hurts . . . </p>

<p>*</p>

<p>I didn’t mean to diss the UCs…I like the UCs. I was just pointing out that they aren’t comparable to ivies. and, yes, the UCs accept students who wouldn’t be considered by ivies. Is that shocking? no! That’s true for all state schools and most privates.</p>