<p>If i may say so this is the point where you make your first hard choice. If social scene and laid back academic is more important then leave LA to someone who sees hard work and prestige more important in the road ahead than you. Everyone forge his/her own road.</p>
<p>haha, well all the arguments have been made already, but let me remind you that about 1 / 5 students at UCSB have STDs</p>
<p>Uh......riiight.</p>
<p>I'd say go to UCSB since you seem to care about the social life.</p>
<p>thanks for your help everyone i will go check out both campuses and see which one is a better fit</p>
<p>I only applied to UCLA and UCSB. Those are the only universities that I applied to.</p>
<p>I got rejected to UCLA this Friday and I got accepted to UCSB sometime in late February with the Chancellor's invitiation to the reception for "high-achieving applicants."</p>
<p>Go to UCLA goddammit.</p>
<p>"I only applied to UCLA and UCSB. Those are the only universities that I applied to."</p>
<p>I don't know why but that made me snort out my orange juice from laughing. I guess I find redundancy hilarious....</p>
<p>Like I said before, research and look around. Dont be a deer in HYPMS headlights.</p>
<p>GO TO UCLA.</p>
<p>Coming from a fairly competitive high school, it's common knowledge that UCSB is just a party school. If all you want from college are alcohol and easy grades, then by all means go to UCSB.</p>
<p>But if you got accepted to UCLA, then you probably have the ability to keep up with the class at LA. Thus, grades won't be too much of an issue. UCLA has a pretty clear prestige factor, and I've heard that BizEcon is pretty hard to get into (or stay in, for that matter).</p>
<p>LA's still fun. It's not as hardcore as the Ivies and etc, but people do study hard as well. (Or so I've heard, anyway.) But no matter what, the prettiness of the campus and the party atmosphere probably shouldn't be the reasons why you choose a school. </p>
<p>Financial aid, on the other hand, makes it kind of tough because a free ride is pretty tempting. As long as your parents can pay for LA though, I'd suggest you take the chance now. It'll pay off in the future.</p>
<p>Just my two cents. Final decision is all yours, of course.</p>
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Indian writes: if you are applying for a bizecon grad school after UCSB, and the grad school has to decide between you and a UCLA guy (same approx. stats), they will most probably pick the LA guy... its a question of prestige at the U level.
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Let me be blunt: this post is written by someone who does not have a CLUE about what they write. For one thing, there are no "bizecon" grad schools. That minor nit aside, what about MBA programs? Well, it is widely known that MBA programs care the least of all grad programs out there about your undergrad gpa or school. For top MBA programs, work experience is the KEY. You need to have 3-5 years of impressive experience to get into the top programs. Now if Indian had said something about ucla being better than ucsb for landing one of those jobs out of college there might be a point there, but no, the claim is that the mythical bizecon programs are going to be looking at where you went to school. </p>
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lovelines writes: Coming from a fairly competitive high school, it's common knowledge that UCSB is just a party school. If all you want from college are alcohol and easy grades, then by all means go to UCSB.
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Wow, just a party school, easy grades and alcohol. Surprising that the U.S. News and World Report's guide, "America's Best Colleges", named UCSB as the 13th best public university in the nation. Not bad for a party school, eh?</p>
<p>OP, and others interested in checking out their options, my advice is to do your homework. Visit both schools. Get a feel of what is right for you. Visit the career center, ask them who recruits on campus and where kids with majors you're thinking of have got jobs. If you know your major make an appt in advance with the undergrad advisor to that major, ask them the questions that you have. Since most people looking at these schools are CA residents I'd recommend an overnite visit if possible. At most HS there are people from the year above who are at these schools; see if you can get in touch with them and crash for a nite on the floor in a sleeping bag. Attend a few classes, eat a few meals in the dorm cafeteria and talk to everyone at the table about how they decided and what they like/dislike about the school.</p>
<p>I think you should decide based on how competitive you are
and you want to be during your college life ... It may be harder for you
to make the curve in LA, but you may be able to breeze through SB.</p>
<p>At the end of the day (and years) you'll be better off if you can rank
in the top 2% or 10% or 30% of your class and stand out in some ways.
Your grades, internships, job offers, and grad school admissions will
depend on it. For example, you may have a better shot at an MBA
program at UCLA Anderson school if you're in the top 10% of the
UCSB class vs bottom two-thirds of the UCLA class. Contrary
to popular belief undergrad grades and recommendations matter.
You don't get into top MBA programs based simply on work experience,
unless you become a business tycoon they can't refuse.</p>
<p>Also, UCSB had a recent nobel laureate in Economics, right?</p>
<p>Having said this, I'd personally pick UCLA because I tend to
want to overachieve. Your grasp is not going to exceed your
reach, right?</p>
<p>UCSB has four nobel laureates in physics fyi... its a good program =/, and is home to many of the developments in string theory.</p>
<p>PS All schools are party schools, if theres one thing thats consistent in all colleges its the presence of alcohol. The only thing that makes some schools more party than other's is the amount of time students have to party. So thats kind of a silly title.</p>
<p>btw, i just found out from my friends that at UCLA it is EXTREMELY HARD to get your classes... so a strong 4 year bachelors may take up to 5 or 6.. thats a downside i think, the area is not that pleasing either</p>
<p>Come to UCLA</p>
<p>Go To Ucla</p>
<p>Maybe if you post it six more times he'll do it!</p>
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zRazeR writes: btw, i just found out from my friends that at UCLA it is EXTREMELY HARD to get your classes... so a strong 4 year bachelors may take up to 5 or 6
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Better talk to your friends again, or better yet ignore them because they're misinformed. It is simply not possible to stay at ucla for 6 years, and even 5 is going to be pretty tough. </p>
<p>They have minimum progress requirements, and if you don't meet them they kick you out. Since you have to accumulate 180 units (min for a degree) in 4 years and take a min of 13 each quarter, mathematically it is IMPOSSIBLE to enroll for 6 years since they don't let you get more than 208 units as an undegrad. This is all from the ucla website if you don't believe me, BTW. See <a href="http://college.ucla.edu/up/counseling/regulations/exprog.htm%5B/url%5D">http://college.ucla.edu/up/counseling/regulations/exprog.htm</a></p>
<p>The same rules hold at all UCs, BTW. It is true you may not get all the classes you prefer, but you're going to have enroll in enough units every quarter to stay in school. They have a priority system so you're likely to get 2 of your choices each quarter, the others are more up to chance.</p>
<p>So you want your parents to pay $24,000 more for you to go to an inferior school so that you can party?</p>
<p>UCSB......It is right on the beach and if you're laid back about academics than it will probably be a better fit for you.</p>
<p>actually it would be 24,000 cheaper to go to UCSB not 24,000 more expensive</p>
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So you want your parents to pay $24,000 more for you to go to an inferior school so that you can party?
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Isn't it funny how some people can interpret things? Ignoring for the moment the inability to comprehend ucsb is $24K less than ucla for the OP instead of more, what does "inferior" mean when applied to ucsb?</p>
<p>While I'm the first to argue the US News rankings are not the ultimate authority on the subject and believe each student should look for colleges that are a fit, what are the rankings of these 2 schools? </p>
<p>For public U's the 2006 rankings for Top Publics have ucla #3 in the country and ucsb #12. So this is what the esteemed poster means by inferior. While there are kids throughout the country that would jump at the chance to go to the number 12 public instead of what their state provides, to suze this is an "inferior" school not worthy of consideration. Go figure ...</p>