@LynAmmo My level is whatever I want it to be lol so is anyone else’s. The theory is good and as with everything it should be considered, however it’s not concrete. Prestigious school = comptetition and very hard work (depending on major as well lol). Anyone who is not ready for that should choose an easier path. Not based on hierarchy statistics…but because you can’t handle that adversity.
@bugajskj lmao k
@FaithGraceUC Thanks, that’s pretty much what I’m trying to say. Did not think I would get these reactions when you tell people it’s not all about the numbers.
@bugajskj Yes, I 100% agree! I know good students who think that the local CSU is their only option because they’re coming from a CCC and it makes me sad! The “poor” stereotype is powerful, and really, it lends to perpetuating it. Similarly, I’ve had people wrongly impose their preconceptions about CC on me, implying that I won’t be successful or that I’m not going anywhere in life because I’m at a CC and also working. Ironically, I did better in high school than a lot of people who have judged me, and I’ve definitely done better than them in college. If I’d been rich, I would have been able to go to a top school as a freshman. Honestly though, screw all of them! CC is a great opportunity, and we are not tied to our life circumstances. Our “level” is contingent on our choices. 
Is La Jolla a nice place?
@itskelvinn La Jolla is gorgeous place!
@itskelvinn Yeah, I visited my friend who goes there and it was awesome. Food nearby, the campus is beautiful and huge, right on the beach, etc. If UCLA doesn’t take me, then definitely UCSD.
La Jolla is super expensive to live in and kind of uppity, but it’s gorgeous
@lexluther96 Seriously. It usually takes a 20 to fill my car, but I had to pay 30 for gas when I was out there! I almost had a heart attack. Definitely not easy on the college budget.
@lexluthor96 Keeping it 100. Your about to swoop in and get a degree for half the price. When everyone gets their debt bills you can see who will be laughing then lol.
There’s a weird and frankly slightly snobbish attitude in regards to CCs and the individuals who go to them. School is what people make of it and it seems like we’re doing what we need to be doing. Good enough for me!
@bugajskj
i agree somewhat. But he wasn’t implying that you should “know your role” or accept perceived or imposed limitations. But was showing how being a top student at a non-elite school can turn out just as successful for someone rather than going to an elite school where there’s a significantly less likelihood of succeeding. I think he was trying to point out a misconception people have about the most elite school being the best option for everyone who gets accepted to said school(i.e. harvard). Even if the admitted students were all the top students in their class(in hs or cc), there’s still going to be an average of those who are otherwise very qualified and smart who don’t succeed at the elite institution(due to relative deprivation theory).
He’s arguing for sound decision making, or to at least be aware of the potential consequences of your choices. Nothing he mentioned had to do with persevering through or overcoming adversity - which a separate issue.
I guess the best thing one can do is to try to make the best decision on the evidence available. It’s clear that choosing a college to attend is influenced by multiple variables (fin aid, rank of program, environment, academics,etc). But again, i think he’s right in that this is an important variable we tend to underestimate(the extent to which relative deprivation influences our choices).
And i know this isn’t an scientific epistemology thread, but there’s a difference between how you are referring to theory as not being concrete and actual scientific theories, this one being relative deprivation, which are well supported by numerous studies in order to be accepted.
@phil067 Like I said before the video is very informative and should be taken into consideration…lightly. Hopefully we can meet some day and continue this conversation about the “scientific theories” and how much weight to put on them based on Karl Poppers “science as falsification” and pseudo science. I can literally write a book on my philosophy, belief system, reality, and perception. Agree to disagree I guess.
I’m SD Mesa community college. I have applied to UCs school such as UCLA, UCSD, UCSB and TAG for UC Irvine. I’m taking Chem 201, 201L, BIO 107, Statics and Physics 197. All of them are going fine, I can get possibly at least all B for those classes, but except the Physics 197 since the teacher I’m taking is really suck. Everytime I ask question, the answer is always “I don’t know”. I’m totally lost in that class. UCirvine already accept me with the TAG and I’m waiting for the others. My current GPA is 3.86. So, I’m still trying to make the Physics into an C, but just want to ask question IF I FAIL THE PHYSICS, WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO MY TRANSFER PLAN? AND WHAT SHOULD I DO THEN? I’m majoring in aerospace engineering.
@AndrewTruong now don’t quote me on this but maybe I can help some… With tag your contract should say what gpa average you need to maintain. For the other schools, once accepted I believe they too will have some sort of contract stating what to maintain for spring since your acceptance is based off up until fall 2016 and technically is conditional pending spring grades.
Also check out your transfer center at Mesa and see if they have any advice as well. Good luck!
@AndrewTruong… Do what you need to do to get a C in Physics 197. As long as you have overall 3.4 for all UC transferable work you should be fine. But if you don’t get a C in Physics, it will nullify the TAG. If you appeal, they MAY allow you to retake it in summer…but no guarantees.
from UCI website:
The requirements below describe the most complete preparation for engineering majors. However, for fall 2017 admission, we will also honor the previous year’s transfer admission requirements for Transfer Admission Guarantees and general fall 2017 applicants to majors in the Henry Samueli School of Engineering. Those requirements can be found here.
Required for all majors in the School of Engineering unless specified otherwise:
Meet all basic UC admission requirements with a minimum grade of C or better
Complete 60 semester or 90 quarter units of UC transferable credit by the end of the spring term prior to the fall quarter of enrollment
Complete one year of single variable calculus
Complete one course in multivariable calculus
Complete one course in ordinary differential equations
Complete one course in linear algebra
Complete one year of calculus-based physics with labs (mechanics, electricity and magnetism)
See additional requirements listed by individual major below.
Aerospace Engineering
Earn a grade of C or better in each of the following required major-preparation courses:
Complete one year of single variable calculus
Complete one course in multivariable calculus
Complete one course in ordinary differential equations
Complete one course in linear algebra
Complete three calculus-based physics courses with labs
mechanics,
electricity and magnetism,
waves, optics & modern physics
Complete one course of general chemistry with laboratory
Complete one course in statics
Complete one course in programming and problem solving in MATLAB
Additional Recommended Courses:
Circuit Analysis with laboratory
Materials Science and Engineering
@AndrewTruong It sounds like Phys 197 is your last class in the physics series. If you do get lower than a C in the class, your TAG will be nullified as calmom17 stated. It’s doubtful that even you can appeal and make for the course in the summer being that your physics series must be taken within one school and that it probably isn’t offered in the summer because of its high difficulty. I’m not sure if this applies, but the 3.4 GPA needed for TAG might have to be for every semester instead of overall so try and get higher than that this semester! In the end, don’t worry about it too much and try your best these last few weeks.
@scotttran thank you.
@AndrewTruong is your professor okumoto?
Any first year intercampus transfers