<p>If you are transferring to UCLA you will be considered a junior regardless of your class standing before or units before. People transfer from community college in one year and are considered juniors. These factors like “prestige” don’t apply. </p>
<p>I don’t think you are getting it though. This is the way it is. If you want a science major with a higher acceptance rate, I’d look at one of the Physics majors. </p>
<p>@lindyk8 oh sorry I read the link wrong lol actually after rereading that it was quite helpful, helped with my questions about ucla @CSB111 I do get it, but what I’m saying is that they should have separate options for students coming in from another UC. It’s pretty stupid that a student from ucsd has to take upper division courses to complete ucla’s prereqs while a student at a community college just takes all lower division courses. Prestige should be a factor. We can both agree that a student with a 4.0 at ucsd like @noodleaaron is probably more qualified than someone with a 3.8 or even a 4.0 from a community college. I’m just saying. The entire UC system needs a fix anyways</p>
<p>@CaliBreed Are you an international student? </p>
<p>The fact that someone has a 4.0 from a top tier UC is very impressive and obviously says a lot. I suspect their reasoning is that a UC student already got in and they have this mandate to help CCC students get their chance. </p>
<p>Hi @collegedropout1! 
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<p>@Lindyk8 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA That made me laugh really hard. I wrote this long paragraph to explain why the OP’s reasoning was wrong, but I’m not even going to bother anymore. </p>
<p>@CollegeDropout1 no I’m not international and please explain why my reasoning is wrong? The majors I would want to transfer into are impacted but the dilemma for me is that the courses are upper division and I won’t be able to take them in all during my freshmen year while at community colleges they’re lower division. I get the whole give the community college kids a chance but they should also set aside space for other uc to uc transfers.</p>
<p>Why not go to a CC then? Save the money and you get priority.</p>
<p>And its not “give CC kids a chance”. Its that we literally have NO way to complete upper division requirements and earn a BA/BS, whereas students coming from other 4 year institutions do have the option to stay and complete their degree.</p>
<p>There is space for UC–>UC transfers, it happens all the time, and statistically the cross-over percentile rate is pretty close to CCC transfers, I believe. But the system is set up so that 92% + of overall transfers are from the CCC, one reason being their application numbers are overwhelmingly higher than from any other source. </p>
<p>You have a really easy choice as far as I can tell: </p>
<p>(1) Stay where you’re at. You haven’t even started yet so you really have no idea how well you might like UCSD.</p>
<p>(2) If you really want to go to UCLA and you are griping that it will be too hard for you to transfer from UCSD (which it will), drop out and go to SMC, with the likely result that you will get in to UCLA. </p>
<p>The system was set up to give the widest range of Californians an equal chance to get to a UC. They are a public university. They fulfilled their mandate with you as you got into UCSD. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, you did not qualify for UCLA. So you can’t get mad at UCLA or the system for that. It is what it is. Who knows how they think.</p>
<p>And yes, taking any math, chem, physics, etc at a UC will be harder than at a CCC, whether LD or UD mainly because of the prodigies you are competing with. It doesn’t mean the applicants from the CCC are any less intelligent. They just had less competition at the CCC. Studies have shown that transfers, in general, tend to maintain pretty much the same GPAs after they transfer.</p>
<p>So you can complain until the cows come home, but you really have two choices: stay at UCSD, or if you really want bioengineering at UCLA, go to a CCC and apply from there. Since you feel UCSD is dead socially and you hate it, why stay?</p>
<p>I might add one thing: You noted that you believe you did not get into UCLA because of one bad grade from an instructor who was on a “witch hunt” against you. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn’t. Maybe that’s the reason, maybe it isn’t. Now you feel the system is out to screw you over. I am seeing a pattern here of finding an outside source that is victimizing you in some way.</p>
<p>I think a better approach, and one that will seriously help you get to better place, whether at UCSD or UCLA, is to change your outlook. Rather than I am being victimized, look at it as, OK, I didn’t get to UCLA and the UCs have certain rules in place - how can I take this knowledge and maximize my chances? Don’t waste energy figuring out all the ways you think you are being victimized. Being the victim puts you in a position of having no power. There are ways to maximize your power if you get out of that thinking mode. :)</p>
<p>^ I wish I could like this 48476947247295781891 times Lindy, excellent advice!!! ^:)^ </p>
<p>That’s why they pay me the big bucks! ( :(( Ha! I wish they did!) Thx @luckie1367 </p>
<p>The problem is that the OP is trying to use UCSD as a community college. When someone is accepted to UCSD, or any other UC, it is with the belief that they will graduate from that institution. UCSD structures their curriculum to help their students succeed at UCSD, not to transfer out. The OP may complain that UCSD is making it hard for him to transfer, but that is entirely on him because UCSD is not their to act as a CC. That’s why someone should not go to a 4 year university with the intention of transferring out. It is a huge mistake.</p>
<p>If transferring to UCLA was his main objective, then he should have gone to his local community college. CC’s structure their curriculum to help students transfer to 4 year institutions. That’s why they exist! However, from what he has written, it seems like the OP cares more about prestige than actually attending a learning institution that will help him accomplish his goal, transferring to UCLA. </p>
<p>Very well said @CollegeDropout1 …</p>
<p>Now to address the “prestige factor” that the OP was talking about. The UC system (with the exception of UCLA who gives equal preference to UC and CC transfer) gives preference to community college applicants because community colleges were designed to transfer students to 4 year universities! That’s why most transfers come from CC’s. They were made for that specific reason, and a few others. If the UC system would give preference to UC students because they are transferring from a “more prestigious” school, then the purpose of community college would be defeated, at least partially. </p>
<p>Now, I have to ask this: Should an investment banker or a Navy SEAL get priority consideration from the UC system because their jobs are more prestigious than being a student? No, of course not! Why? Because the UC system is their to admit high school students and community college students. The Prestige of their jobs at this point is irrelevant to the UC system because it is students that the UC system was made for. The same logic applies to the transfer process.</p>
<p>When someone transfers from a four year university to a UC, it is usually because they changed their mind while they were attending their university. You may think that it is unfair because you obviously value prestige, even to a point where it is actually hurting your chances of of attending your dream school, but it is actually not because of the reasons I mentioned above. </p>
<p>Now you may think it is unfair because of the situation you are in, but remember you decided to put yourself in it. They way the UC system selects it’s transfer admits does not need fixing, but your transfer plan does. I strongly suggest you don’t go to SD, you still have time to back out. It is going to be very hard to maintain a competitive GPA at SD if you want to transfer to UCLA as an economics major. The average GPA for admitted transfer economics majors at UCLA was 3.93. Do you think you can do that at SD? You’re just going to have to swallow your pride and go to CC is you want any chance at UCLA.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/adm_tr/Tr_Prof12_mjr.htm#CE”>http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/adm_tr/Tr_Prof12_mjr.htm#CE</a></p>
<p>@lindyk8 Thanks! haha, I had to break my comment into several posts to make it easier to read!</p>