<p>I agree with Kathee. They really seem to have a need to massage their apparently fragile self-esteems. When we took the tours this summer the UF guides made four to five jokes about FSU, the FSU guides never mentioned UF. Overall, very off-putting.</p>
<p>And isn’t Gator Nation just a fancy way of saying alumni? I’ve never heard of Harvard Nation or Duke Nation, most likely because it’s not necessary for them to create a marketing name to add value to their educational product.</p>
<p>Generally when something or someone is highly regarded it’s not necessary for that entity to incessantly tell you so.</p>
<p>I don’t understand how you guys can gripe about bias, when the question was asked in a University of Florida forum. Of course there is going to be bias! Most of the people here probably attend UF or are affiliated with it in some sort of way, so they’re going to prefer UF over FSU Honors. Why would anyone admit that a school they could have gone to is better than the one they’re paying to go to? They would just be admitting they made a poor decision.</p>
<p>Are both schools good? Yes. Do they both have their pros and cons? Yes. But the OP asked a very broad question that has to be answered using some opinion. As you can probably tell, I’m a HUGE University of Florida fan, but if the question he asked was where should I go for a Liberal Arts major, I would admit defeat and say FSU.</p>
<p>I doubt the OP wants our opinions of other posters. Therefore, we should just state what we believe without scrutinizing the opinions of others, whether or not they are biased. With this in mind, I’ll repeat what some other posters have said: Whether one is better than the other is based on your major. The only person that can truely answer your question is yourself. Just make yourself happy, bud.</p>
<p>@Kathee - Every college has the typical egotistical alumni, but they shouldn’t fog your opinion of the school. Luckily, Tallalassie just above me provided an example of how FSU fans can be equally obnoxious as some UF fans by stating that “hilarious” jorts joke…</p>
<p>Let’s assume (and much of this depends not on innate ability of a student, for every student accepted to FSU is selected based on years of demonstrated performance, <em>which is one reason why Florida State places more emphasis on GPA than tests you can take over and over, like the SAT and ACT</em> but the desire to excel at very hard work and persevere when repeatedly challenged) the OP is within the top 1% of all university students at Florida State. What happens? Does he/she squander his/her opportunity for an extremely good university education? Most certainly not, and this is why Honors at Florida State is MUCH better than regular admission or even Honors at UF.</p>
<p>Here are some concrete examples:</p>
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<li> My own D1 was offered Honors at FSU and qualified for Honors at UF. She selected FSU.</li>
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<p>She was a biochemistry major and was able to have individual, funded, research opportunities in her field wherein she worked in her professor’s lab on an individual research project she established with her faculty mentor. She not only wrote her thesis on this subject, but also won a fellowship which enabled her to travel and present her work at a national biochem symposium. There were NO UF undergrads presenting their work. If rlynch’s position is correct there should have been more UF undergrads, but there were none. She had access to the Mag Lab for experiments and presented her work repeatedly in scientific forums. Professors from other universities recruited her for graduate research work again and again, but she wanted to be an MD.</p>
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<li> The recent story of Calem Hoffman (now PhD).</li>
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<p>Dr Hoffman started as an undergrad in physics at Florida State and quickly distinguished himself as a talented student of physics. Here’s what happened:
<p>FSU does an excellent job identifying and nurturing young scholars. They convinced my daughter (who is a Phi Beta Kappa graduate and current med student) to choose FSU over UF . They identify and work with many others as well.</p>
<p>I Love UF!!! Gator Nation. Some people are taking this discussion a little too seriously. No one is getting paid for it. @parents2noles you are over zealous. Tone it down a notch. It’s just an opinion. By the way, I was up at 4 A.M. because I couldn’t sleep. Mind your business. Thank You :)</p>
<p>@rlynch93 I second that.</p>
<p>The last time I checked there wasn’t anything wrong with competition. Rivalry between colleges is perfectly normal. I hope you all, primarily adults, are this enthusiastic about your jobs.</p>