<p>I am either going to major in history or museum studies. I heard that UF usually gets more respect, but FSU honors seemed to offer much more than UF honors. I already was accepted to FSU honors, but I know UF honors isn't a guarantee. Does anybody know which one would be better for someone who wants to have a career at a musuem? Also, which school has the better study abroad program?</p>
<p>As an FSU graduate I dispute the “UF gets more respect concept”. </p>
<p>FSU has an outstanding study abroad program (Top 15 per the website: <a href=“FSU International Programs 404”>https://international.fsu.edu/</a> ) and operates the state art museum of Florida: [The</a> John and Mable Ringling Museum of Art](<a href=“http://www.ringling.org/]The”>http://www.ringling.org/)</p>
<p>I have no idea what FSU honors offers, but I feel that UF honors is a joke (as I’m a member of it) in the end, however, whether or not you’re in honors doesn’t really matter because it has nothing to with graduating “with honors.” Everyone I know who has tried to study abroad has found a program they absolutely love at UF. I don’t know what you rank for study abroad programs, but based on the number of students studying abroad UF ranks 11th for study abroad opportunities. There’s a lot of support for studying abroad from the international center, you can read more about it here: [The</a> University of Florida International Center](<a href=“http://www.abroad.ufic.ufl.edu/]The”>http://www.abroad.ufic.ufl.edu/)</p>
<p>It seems UF’s museum studied program may be a graduate program or is interdiscplinary and reasonably new (formed in 1999) I’m certainly no expert in the college of fine arts, so you should look into that. You can read more about it here: <a href=“http://www.arts.ufl.edu/mstudies/program.html[/url]”>http://www.arts.ufl.edu/mstudies/program.html</a>
The “build relationships” tab seemed the most interesting to me.</p>
<p>Nationwide UF is the more prestigious institution (as adjudged by rankings) but you can do well with either, you should look into the programs and see what you like best. If you are sure you’re going to stay in Florida then you might not need the whole “Gator Nation” support that UF provides.</p>
<p>I agree about the OP doing well at either, but the “rankings” (generally USNWR) are perpetually in dispute [due</a> to gaming](<a href=“http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/editorials/article1011155.ece]due”>http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/editorials/article1011155.ece), rewarding inappropriate value, are calculated to increase the sale of magazines and are not peer reviewed. </p>
<p>Caveat emptor. ;)</p>
<p>p2n, if you think the rankings are skewed, then why do you keep posting linkings to FSU rankings from various sources (including FSU’s web page) to try to make a point? Seems like you are ok with rankings when they are convenient for you, but then bash them when they are not?? ;)</p>
<p>What is even more hilarious is that in your first post of this thread you claimed that FSU’s study abroad program was outstanding and you used FSU’s top 15 ranking as justification. But when someone else said that UF’s study abroad program is ranked 11th, you decided to bash rankings all together! hahaha 
Too funny. :D</p>
<p>It’s not a perfect world, gfg. As I’ve written before I use the rankings both ways, to establish differences where clearly there are some and bash them when the differences, if any at all, are much less distinct. For example, you’ve never seen me bash rankings when comparing the UF engineering program to FSU’s engineering program, because I think at present there is a definite gap. However, I will readily bash rankings when the overall FSU - UF undergrad programs are compared because the distortions are too much to tolerate.</p>
<p>I also enjoy poking the wind out of sweeping claims like FSU is clearly the best university in Florida because both our men’s and women’s basketball teams are in the highest national competitions and UF’s are not. ;)</p>
<p>Oh I get it now… you just go whichever way the wind blows… :)</p>
<p>p2n, just because FSU’s “men’s and women’s basketball teams are national competitions and UF’s are not” doesn’t mean that FSU is the best university in Florida. obv there are other things that define that. but anyway, i respect both schools 
i like UF better but thats just my opinion lol</p>
<p>“I also enjoy poking the wind out of sweeping claims like FSU is clearly the best university in Florida because both our men’s and women’s basketball teams are in the highest national competitions and UF’s are not.”</p>
<p>Who cares about women’s basketball?</p>
<p>Sure it does. Sports superiority means everything is better. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Definitely true, when was the last time the seminoles beat the gators in football anyway?
FSU bragging about a 9 seed in basketball while the Gators were a 10 seed makes absolutely no sense, especially since neither school claims to place more emphasis on basketball then football. We also have the more recent national championships in both major sports. So FSU can have their women’s basketball team, we’ll take the football dominance.</p>
<p>FSU claimed a ranking of 15, they didn’t say what that ranking was for at all. UF said it was ranked 11th based on number of people who study abroad, that’s totally quantifiable. I assume the 15th ranking is probably for quality of the bathroom on the plane the 4 students who studied abroad used.</p>
<p>I’m actually a little upset that FSU is so terrible at football these days. What fun is a rivalry when your “rival” can’t stop you from throwing him around like a rag doll?</p>
<p>You folks are simply jealous. :D</p>
<p>Interesting what happens when people systemically refute every point you make. With, ya know, evidence and stuff rather then opinions.</p>
<p>You mean when no one is actually debating you? </p>
<p>How “gator”. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>I tend to judge how good a school is based on how hard it is to get in…</p>
<p>Certainly that’s one way to follow the crowd.</p>
<p>^^^ LOL. Perfect example of the FSU inferiority complex. </p>
<p>Judging program prestige based on rankings and program selectivity is “following the crowd.” Unless, of course, it’s FSU that’s ranked higher or more selective than the other school in question, I’m sure. </p>
<p>You should definitely choose FSU over UF because that makes you a rebel. Rankings, degree strength and selectivity be darned! :P</p>
<p>Hardly. You choose because it has what you want at the least expense. </p>
<p>You don’t do it because supposedly everyone else does, which is a simplified way of making decisions that many elect as they don’t ferret out real quality; they buy a magazine and think they’ve made an informed choice. A perfect example of this is where someone wants to study political science and assumes UF has the best program but come to find out, later usually, FSU has a much superior program in reality.</p>
<p>FSU makes a lot of sense for a political science major; you can walk right over from the campus to the capitol and get in up to your elbows in politics working with a legislator as an aid or bagman or some other job. Even if you are interested in federal politics, Tallahassee is a good training ground for political science combined with FSU.</p>