UGA Honors vs. Barrett Honors College at Arizona State - any insights?

<p>Our son is wrestling with a decision between two programs that constitute an unusual choice. He's finding it difficult to identify points of comparison from online sources, so I suggested we ask for input from CCers.</p>

<p>Since he's an avid marching band snare drummer and we fall in the middle-class no-need-based aid zone, he chose to look at Honors programs with strong marching bands. It's come down to these two. Here are their main selling points:</p>

<p>Barrett is a separate college of ASU with its own campus on the main Tempe campus. It has 3,000 students, seven dorms, its own dining hall and student center, its own advising staff and a faculty of 19 Barrett-only faculty + Honors liaison faculty in every department. One of their prime selling points is an Office of National Scholarship Advisement that works individually with their students to prepare and coach them for Truman, Rhodes, Marshall, Udall, Goldwater, NSEP and Fulbright scholarships. Their walls are covered with hundreds of pictures of their scholarship recipients.</p>

<p>UGA Honors is a more traditional Honors program with 2,000 students, a mostly-freshman Honors dorm, and a lounge in the Honors building. Its program is centered more on the in-class experience, though the quality of campus life at UGA is highly-rated by students, so I doubt that many Honors students would want much separation from the larger student body.</p>

<p>Both offer priority registration and smaller class sizes in Honors sections.</p>

<p>The mean SATs at Barrett are 1320 / 1600 with a quarter of the students out-of-state and a more diverse student population than what we have in Georgia. UGA's Honors SATs average 1460 / 1600. Being 70 miles from our home, the student body would be similar to what we know in our town, and perhaps not expose our son to as many different perspectives.</p>

<p>Both marching bands are excellent. The drumline may be slightly more accessible at UGA than ASU, partially due to the relative sizes of the schools.</p>

<p>UGA as a whole is generally higher-ranked academically FWIW, though ASU's evaluations are often colored by an admissions policy for the larger institution that is intentionally less-selective.</p>

<p>Tuition would be free at UGA - he'd pay for room, board, some fees and incidentals. At ASU, tuition over four years would be about $70,000 after the scholarship he's been offered. We've put away $ for college and can afford the $70,000, but we are not so affluent as to be price-insensitive, and the 70K could also help fund grad school.</p>

<p>Any thoughts?</p>

<p>UGA clearly. It’s a much better school and cheaper.</p>

<p>I second UGA. The differences seems very slim between the two school and one is way much cheaper.</p>

<p>Definitely UGA! The price says it all, and he’ll be close to home (maybe that’s not a good thing). I doubt that student body at ASU (while larger) will provide different “perspectives” than the people at UGA. I would imagine college will broaden his outlook on life anyways. Plus, Athens is a better town than Tempe.</p>

<p>UGA, better recognition too compared to asu</p>

<p>I’m a fan of Barrett’s from everything I have heard, but the $ and no compelling reason to go to AZ, make UGA a slam dunk in my mind.</p>

<p>At that price, definitely UGA. Though keep in mind that if your son has free tuition at UGA from HOPE and Zell Miller, it may not stay that way all four years.</p>

<p>^ That’s true.</p>

<p>I spent 10 years at ASU, earning an MS while I was there.</p>

<p>I would never pay more for ASU, even Barrett, when your instate flagship offers at least an equal choice for academics and a superior financial position.</p>

<p>Basically, you are paying a stiff premium just so your child can hang out with dudes from AZ and CA. These students are not going to be any different than your son, just from a different city in a different state. Do you really want to pay for that?</p>

<p>I love ASU. I think it takes a beating that it does not always deserve and has some truly exceptional programs. I might pay a couple of thousand a year premium for ASU just for the ‘experience’ but if you are talking anything more than that, save your money.</p>

<p>Are you also factoring in $1,000/year Barrett extra fee? (I think)</p>

<p>Well, there seems to be a pretty consistent trend here. How about if the costs were equal?</p>

<p>We’ve had this discussion before about ASU - justified or not, it still has a major reputation as a party school for rich-but-not-too-bright kids in AZ, CA and in northern climates who want fun-in-the-sun.</p>

<p>I’ve recently looked at both UGA and ASU for S and nephew, respectively. Given that you are instate for UGA, I can’t think of a good reason to spend $70K to attend ASU. If you were OOS for both schools, ASU might be a better option for financial reasons. </p>

<p>While I personally preferred UGA and Athens to ASU and Tempe, I liked ASU much more than expected and do feel that it gets maligned more than it deserves. If one is in a situation similar to the OP’s S, I think ASU is worth taking a look at and would not dismiss it automatically based on the rich kid/party school reputation mentioned on this thread.</p>

<p>Same here - we were very surprised at how much we liked Barrett, Tempe and the ASU campus.</p>

<p>Gooooo Dawgs! My Harvard girls still says she’s coming back to UGA for med school and now my Dartmouth son is looking at UGA law. There’s just something about the red and black.</p>

<p>I don’t know anything about ASU but my kids’ friends love UGA. S has a classmate who is a FF and she speaks very highly of the academics and her all around experience. There are great opportunities for research and project funding through CURO. She’s a junior planning on vet school. We have four kids from our town in the band who are crazy about it, too.</p>

<p>So…about $70k for ASU and about $40k for UGA? </p>

<p>And, of course, you’ll need to add about 5 thousand more for airfare and shuttles a few times per year for 4 years (plus any travel that the parents do to help with move in and/or family weekends). I know that you’ve had Ds go to school in the NE, so you are aware of some of those costs.</p>

<p>That said, I wouldn’t worry about the party school image at ASU. Your kid would be in Barrett and likely those students are serious and wouldn’t party any more frequently than students at the more elite schools.</p>