Uh Oh (Free Taiwan!)

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<p>As you said yourself, All Chinese government before Ching ruled Taiwan. but your analysis is correct. you told us the cultural side of things.</p>

<p>Also Taiwan is also dubbed as the "unsinkable" aircraft carrier, though with advent of missiles, it's not anymore. </p>

<p>The current Taiwainese military has a fair amount of AWACs and advanced fighters armed with AIM120 or AIM9 series. </p>

<p>One thing is for sure though, Shall Taiwain and Mainland fight, you can REALLY see how well US planes and Russian planes matchup.</p>

<p>I'll be interested to see how F15/F16 performs against J10/Su27/Su30, providing Japan send its forces.</p>

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<p>lets... just... stop... this... argument... everyone's annoyed at each other and it's going nowhere</p>

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<p>It's not going to anywhere unless Taiwan decides to negotiate, or China became a very rich country that surpasses Japan, or China decides to use force.</p>

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<p>i was talking about the thread... not the actual implications with china and taiwan</p>

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<p>i was talking about this thread. people's view will not suddenly go away unless situations i stated above happen. this is like abortion.</p>

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<p>no, i was implying we stop talking about this thread... so we don't "flame" each other anymore... why does everything have to be a debate?</p>

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<p>because people have conflicts and have disagreements with facts.</p>

<p>the PRC will not let go of its pride, and Taiwan will not let go of international recognition. never ends, guys, unless one side is completely eliminated, and that is by war. right?</p>

<p>"As you said yourself, All Chinese government before Ching ruled Taiwan."</p>

<p>Don't think so.</p>

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<p>Actually you are right. Taiwain was ruled by China since Ming.</p>

<p>actually, a peaceful resolution will bring a powerful and united China.</p>

<p>and that;'s the last thing USA wants to see.</p>

<p>same goes for Korea.</p>

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<p>Cheng Cheng-kung was a Ming loyalist, but Ming had collasped when he escaped to Taiwan from the Ching and established rule.</p>

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<p>Ming is a dynasty here, not sure what's your ming's meaning here. Ming collapsed before Qing due to farmers' uprisng.</p>

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<p>yeah, and they didn't rule Taiwan.</p>

<p>Ming is a dynasty. Cheng Cheng-kung was loyal to the dynasty. Don't quite understand the misunderstanding.</p>

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<p>My point is Ming did not rule Taiwan. Taiwan was not under the rule of a mainland China-based government until the Ching for 8 years before the Treaty of Shimonoseki.</p>

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<p>Oh i thought you said cheng ki shi</p>

<p>i thought cheng cheng kung took over taiwain and lived there</p>

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<p>no no no, not that facist. names looks the same don't they?</p>

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<p>it's good that you hold a civilized conversation. i never thought about some of the points you have been implying before. </p>

<p>yes, Taiwan is de facto independent, but it's a problem that history left for us. It's the greatest shame that Chinese had incurred. I hope it'll be solved soon.</p>

<p>A strong nation unite, a winner unite (United States), but a loser break up and let others claim their power (USSR)</p>

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<p>To say about it on mass medis is already a democracy. China has much more cases of even more cruel mistreating, though they're secret. Like USSR.</p>

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<p>Absolutely right embargo. Do you think that US and other countries, which established this embargo thought cared about Chinese. No.</p>

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<p>"Sometimes, I think that "these so called protestors" are not really so innocent, they're organized by certain groups or even countries. Do you remember "antiglobalists", they were communists, supported by USSR."</p>

<p>you are linking every innocent people who wants to express their rights to communists.</p>

<p>way to go sir. Only a person NOT from the US can say something like that.</p>

<p>It's one thing to not care about a country, it's another to not letting other country to give that country food.</p>

<p>are you happened to from taiwan or Japan? You are even less safe and sound there.</p>

<p>you don't want none of mainland's FABs, missiles or maybe even nukes.</p>

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<p>Why do we have to feed you like a cow?Hahha We will feed you, and you will respond us with good army and big nukes? You're our enemy and I don't understand those humanitarian organizations from USA which help China. You're rich enough.</p>

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<p>so you are from Taiwan</p>

<p>wow, it's an awesome generalization, we are poor aren't we. China is no longer a poor nation.</p>

<p>and stop trying to get China to attack you so you can be a part of Japan (that;s what the founding father of taiwan independent said)</p>

<p>USA will NOT aid you, and hopefully we will not have to FEED you like a cow.</p>

<p>we were all Chinese, why fight?</p>

<p>Look at Jews, look at Americans, look at Japanese, DO ANY SUCCESSFUL culture fight among themselves now?</p>

<p>No.</p>

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<p>I'm not Chinese in none ounce of blood. My nation is my nation, and Chinese are Chinese. Don't try to put 'em together. And I'm proud of it.</p>

<p>Hahahaha who knows what I'm about, lol</p>