<p>Yeah clearly.</p>
<p>Between this and the BS firefighter/dogfood settlement, I'm getting really tired of everyone jumping in with millions to placate alleged racism victims. It only encourages further incidents/incitements.</p>
<p>soooo...what firefighter/dogfood settlement..?</p>
<p>Oh god. The city council of LA awarded a 2.7 million dollar settlement to a black former firefighter last week. Apparently in 2004 the firehouse was playing volleyball and he called himself The Big Dog and demanded that he be fed. So a couple guys played a prank and gave him some spaghetti with a little dog food in it. He sued saying it was racist (even though he admitted before the lawsuit to friends that he didnt think it was racially driven and even though he had participated in faaaaaaar worse pranks with photographic evidence). LA City council, being a bunch of P-----s, freaked out and basically awarded him a ton of taxpayer money on behalf of the fire department, even though they didn't wholly consider the evidence. </p>
<p>It's loathsome. </p>
<p>I don't always agree with John and Ken's politics (like, a lot of the time), but their coverage of this case has been pretty good and they're the ones who found the photos, etc. All of the information can be found here ---> <a href="http://www.johnandkenshow.com/index.php?s=tennie&submit=go%5B/url%5D">http://www.johnandkenshow.com/index.php?s=tennie&submit=go</a></p>
<p>:eek:</p>
<p>r.i.d.i.c.u.l.o.u.s.</p>
<p>so much waste and corruption allie. </p>
<p>the students are right, we need a revolution. just not their kind.</p>
<p>A quote, verbatim, from the other message board I frequent (entirely un-UCLA related) about this incident:</p>
<p>"They tasered the kid 7 times... because he is Iranian."</p>
<p>This is why extended telephone-game style media coverage and the public's inability to think in an informed and logical manner is BAD. </p>
<p>Good god.</p>
<p>I honestly can't understand why this is such a big deal. Obviously the media is blowing it way out of proportion and 99% of people, being the sheep that they are, believe only what the media tells them without any thought process whatsoever. This is why I have lost a vast majority of faith in the public.
Anyway, I feel that the police were completely within their rights to do what they did. I think I have explained some of these things before, but I'll say it again.</p>
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The police cannot expect someone that has been tasered to stand up right afterwards
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<p>To those who say this and similar things, I would say... 'why not?' Unlike what the ACLU would have you believe, tasers do not incapacitate people for up to 15 minutes. It is a transient effect that lasts only as long as the shock is applied. I have seen many people stunned with a taser and none of them were "incapacitated" beyond the time that they were actively stunned. Furthermore, none of them (small girls included) screamed as loud and as much as that pansy did in the video. His reaction was obviously for dramatic effect ONLY. </p>
<p>Also, having a "medical condition" DOES NOT make a taser shock dangerous to you. People who think this are grossly misinformed. Tasers have continuously been shown to be safer than, say, car airbags or even drugs such as Tylenol. </p>
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The police used multiple tasering after the student was handcuffed and threatened other students with it - clearly an abuse of power
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<p>No it definitely is not an 'abuse of power'. The police reacted in a way consistent with their own use of force policy (which is now posted on the UCPD website, btw) and the California Penal Code, which prohibits civilians from interfering with a police officer - i.e. people DO NOT have the right to demand badge numbers in this case. </p>
<p>And since they were facing a hostile crowd, it wouldn't matter if the students approached the police and demanded to know what they ate last night, the officers were completely right to threaten those students with tasing or other action if they did not stand back.</p>
<p>Another thing is that people think that the officers should have just lifted him up and taken him outside, especially since he was already handcuffed. I wonder if these people are giving their professional opinion based on proper training in this area? Also, are they suggesting that people suddenly loose the ability to resist when they are handcuffed? Please. Handcuffed or not, he was resisting - the taser is a tool to be used to counter such resistance. It was perfectly right to use it in this instance.</p>
<p>In short, people shouldn't comment on what they know little to nothing about and secondly.... I hate people (or at least their collective stupidity) haha.</p>
<p>bp</p>
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Didn't realize threatening someone who asks for your badge number with tasering is in the LAPD guidelines. One more reason never to move to LA, I guess.
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<p>First, I made a slight typo error. It was UCPD, not LAPD.</p>
<p>Threatening the other students with a taser was obviously an overreaction, but their use of the taser on that rebellious student, at least the first time, was the right thing to do and I believe it was in line with proper procedure in these kinds of incidents.</p>
<p>Savant</p>
<p>Well said.</p>
<p>great point Savant. unfortunately many people just use this as an excuse to get excited about something.</p>
<p>I hate liberals.</p>
<p>front page of LA times, which is heavily slanted (no surprise) for the tasered 23 year old adult
also my friends in OOS colleges who are from westwood area are makikng facebook groups dissing the UCPD, not only beccause of this, but because they busted them skateboarding and smoking joints at in and out hahah</p>
<p>This is why UCLA is turning into the new Berkeley. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Shows the cops did not do enough, and the revolutionary should have been tasered 1000 times in order to get the point across.</p>
<p>ya kman...like people WOULDNT be freaking out more if they did that.</p>
<p>yea i don't get why all the students are getting worked up about a display of just how safe they really are. Doesn't this instance show that the police are willing to go to any extreme to ensure that we are safe? hell, am i the only one who feels a little bit safer?</p>
<p>So today I found even more friends from other colleges/out of state that joined facebook groups to protest what happened here...pretty absurb</p>