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@PPofEngrDr My son got in as Undeclared eng (CS was his first choice). so reading around, i feel getting into CS looks to be a daunting task. Is Comp Engineering easier to get it? is there a numerical limit on number of people who can get into Comp Engineering

Also not sure how diff Comp Engineering is from CS. Looks like there is a big overlap.

He already has UMD and Wisconsin. But he loves UIUC. So not sure what he should do

Thanks. My son wants to do CE only. My question was intended to find the quality of faculty and infrastructure for CE and not a CE vs CS question.

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FWIW, Undeclared Eng has changed the processes from last fall for CS. Engineering Undeclared | The Grainger College of Engineering | UIUC

Read the FAQ all the way down. So it is not cakewalk anymore.
If you your son heart is at CS, i would take UMD, rather than rolling the dice if he doesn’t have plan-B at UIUC.

It is more likely that TAs will be teaching introductory classes than faculty members! A world-class faculty will attract top-notch Ph.D. students from across the world, and so regardless of CS, CE, or ECE, it is pretty good.

@PPofEngrDr Thanks thats what i suggested. But he started looking into CE

Is getting into CE also tough? Do we need to have a plan-B for CE as well?

By the way, I feel this blog on “Coding is NOT Computer Science” is well written and is helpful (Coding is Not Computer Science – r y x, r). As someone who did CSE (which blends both CS and CE), I think this blog hits the nail on its head because ~80% of CS curriculum is pure “computer science” (Discrete Math based) and ~20% is about programming (that too about “principles of programming”). Yet, the dichotomy between CS curriculum and reality is that ~80% of CS students end up doing only “programming”/“coding” work, possibly because that’s where lies is a lot of money to be earned currently!

CE will be easy from Undeclared Eng. To my knowledge they only change the process for UE–>CS (this was a cakewalk before fall’20 and was considered as loophole from my pov), but you may want to check with AO as you know rules/processes are continuously changing.

For people trying to understand what true CS is, I feel this blog on “Coding is NOT Computer Science” would be helpful (Coding is Not Computer Science – r y x, r). As someone who did CSE (which blends both CS and CE), I think this blog hits the nail on its head because ~80% of CS curriculum is pure “computer science” (Discrete Math based) and ~20% is about programming (that too about “principles of programming”). Yet, the dichotomy between CS curriculum and reality is that ~80% of CS students end up doing only “programming”/“coding” work, possibly because that’s where lies is a lot of money to be earned currently! Internationally, this dichotomy has resulted in CS major becoming extremely selective with insane volume of applications for CS major!

yoaustin, can you provide pointers to the articles published? My son is looking to find interesting work being done by high school students in CS. TIA

Thanks. Will ask my son to reach out to AO

I posted a couple of their articles, but decided to delete them. Thanks.

Is that what they do at UT for CS? I’m shocked. I hadn’t thought about that at UIUC, I had figured there too it’s professors teaching them all. My daughter at her CS school has never had a TA teach a class. The TA only leads the once/week discussion. Which unfortunately every class seems to have there for Engineering and some have two weekly discussions. It’s such a time suck.

I would look at some github pages too. My oldest had a ton of stuff published on his github page during high school. It wasn’t necessarily articles but the projects he had done.

Well now you should change your handle. :slightly_smiling_face:

Realized my mistake, and deleted :slight_smile: It is about the kids, not about the parents! I got a little turned off after the soft reject at UT, but life will go on!!

@PPofEngrDr We didnt apply for CE originally (CS was our first choice and undeclared was our second choice). Now can we appeal and try to get into CE . Is this even possible?

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Who knows there are better choices out there on Ivy day for them!
So mantra, whatever happens, happens for best.
But I will say this, they will thrive at UIUC from fit pov.

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To my knowledge, appeal process you may loose even UE if they decide against it (thought process is why they would allow someone to jump already waitlisted Q). I would reccommned reading fine prints for appeal process before kicking the can. Also even if you succeed in appeal to CE, you know that CS door will be closed, while remain in UE would give him an opprounity to decide a year from now. Its a tough call and requires some risk/gutsy decision.

My son just got accepted yesterday to UIUC. A manuscript which my son coauthored got accepted for publication almost the same time. Does it make sense to notify the admission office, so they may take it into consideration for scholarship? For the schools which haven’t had decisions yet, I guess we are just going to send updates.

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