<p>How competitive are the majors biology, neuroscience, and brain behavior?
How would the three be rated on a scale from hardest to easiest?</p>
<p>you would have to take chem 210/215 and biochem. genetics maybe. If you can get through those than its probably fine.
from what I hear, BBCS is the easiest becuase its all psych classes</p>
<p>least competitive
Psych
BBCS
Biology
Neuroscience
Chemistry
Biochem
most competitive</p>
<p>How about engin majors: CE (comp eng), CS (comp sci), aero, IOE, and ME?</p>
<p>Also, how are math classes (in terms of grading) above the 300-level?</p>
<p>From upperclassmen in IEEE:</p>
<p>CE/CS ~ No Big Difference <–Most Competitive
AERO
ME
IOE</p>
<p>They did say that EECS are graded heavily on a curve and they way to do well is beating the average. However, the students help each other with classwork and stuff.</p>
<p>How uncompetitive is IOE?</p>
<p>"How uncompetitive is IOE? "</p>
<p>Basically comprised of three groups</p>
<p>1 Would-be financial engineers (FE is only offered at the master level and at the undergrad level IOE is the closest thing to it) and wannabe consultants who want to leverage IOE because of it’s quantitative coursework… so this group is always the top of the curve.</p>
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<li><p>People who are actually interested in being a traditional industrial engineer. Middle of the curve type.</p></li>
<li><p>And then many of the rest are just bottom feeder transferred in from other engineering majors because they cant cut it.</p></li>
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<p>Is being at the bottom of the curve in IOE somehow easier than being at the bottom of any other major? </p>
<p>I impression I got from the Engr 110 class. was that IOE was a sort of general degree, which would allow people to get a job without “engineer” in the title. Does no one use it for that, or were you including those in the 1st group?</p>
<p>damn cs/ce is THAT bad? a girl in my research group brags that she gets drunk almost every night and still pulls off a-'s in her eecs classes.</p>
<p>i know that eecs 203 and 215 are not graded on a curve, but 280 is.</p>
<p>^and you believe that? </p>
<p>I hate those students who whine and squeal to others about “im soooo going to fail this test” or “wow I didn’t study at all last night!!”. And then they get a 98% on the test. I just want to tell them to shut the ■■■ up.</p>
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<p>I can’t speak for 203, but 280 has been graded on a curve for the last 5-6 years. Did something change for this year?</p>
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<p>CS courses are relatively easy. CE courses are harder. EE courses are a a ton harder. It really depends on which major you are, what your concentration is, and so on.</p>
<p>^I said 280 IS graded on a curve.</p>
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<p>I said that the girl bragged about how good she is. I’ve worked with her for a month now to tell you that she’s a very good programmer … one of the best in the lab, so I trust that. </p>
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<p>So CS is hard? </p>
<p>How are upper level math classes (300-level+) at UMich? I want to also major in math but I also want to know what I’m gonna encounter.</p>
<p>I also want to reask my last question…</p>
<p>I impression I got from the Engr 110 class. was that IOE was a sort of general degree, which would allow people to get a job without “engineer” in the title. Is that true or false?</p>
<p>IOE is basically applied math with a huge calc based stats and probability focus… and a lot of numerical modelling… not much traditional engineering, unless you count ergonomics…</p>
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<p>Sorry about that - I meant 215.</p>
<p>Someone I talked to said that those classes are created so that they intentionally try to screw you over … how so? Is the material itself hard or do they write questions/assignments that are vague or just plain weird? I always see people working in the lobby of the CSE building.</p>
<p>Well, the questions on tests for Engin 101 are very tricky. The material is all very easy, but the questions are “just plain weird.” The test seems to test your carefulness more than your knowledge of the subject. So it wouldn’t surprise me to find out the higher CS classes are like that too.</p>
<p>Just missed the 20 minutes…</p>
<p>Bearcats, so is it a good degree to go into a non-engineering field (management or business)? I guess I mean do you know what percentage are working as engineers and what percentage as managers or in other business fields after a few years? Or have any estimate?</p>
<p>Ergonomics? What’s that got to do with anything discussed here? Are we designing chairs here?</p>
<p>Ergonomics is one of the things you learn about in IOE.</p>