<p>Hi,</p>
<p>How is UMich represented overseas compared to other well known state schools: UVA, UNC, Berkeley?</p>
<p>I am looking to work oversea upon graduation, I want to compare UMich with other big states schools in terms of recognition for academic excellence, job placement, alumni network, etc. Thanks for your help!</p>
<p>It obviously depends on the part of the world you wish to work in. Generally speaking, among public universities, Michigan’s reputation is second only to Berkeley. In parts of Asia and Latin America, UCLA carries a lot of weight. Texas-Austin, UIUC and Wisconsin are also well regarded. Here’s how I would break it down:</p>
<p>ASIA:
<p>EUROPE:
<p>LATIN/SOUTH AMERICA:
<p>MIDDLE EAST:
<p>UM also has a “special” connection with China.</p>
<p>Thanks for your help Alexandre! I am a Virginia resident, so I will be paying out of state tuition for UM. I’d love to go to UM but don’t think I can afford OoS tuition. How generous is UM OoS financial aid? On the other hand, I can afford UVa’s tuition, but don’t quite love it…</p>
<p>My gut says to do whatever it takes to go to UM, but my bank account disagrees.</p>
<p>It’s hard to pass up UVA in-state tuition for Michigan OOS. Same is true in reverse.</p>
<p>I agree with res ipsa. Unless Michigan gives you excellent FA, stick to UVa. Apply to both and see what happens.</p>
<p>@all, thanks for the advice. </p>
<p>Alexandre, I’ve been admitted to LSA with Junior status (60 credits). I want a dual degree in BBA and Political Science. Is that possible to do at a junior? Am I allow to apply again to Ross after being admitted to LSA? Assuming I finished all pre-req. (econ, calc, etc.)</p>
<p>I did not know you are a transfer student. Transfering to Ross is a long process and will likely require three years to graduate. I would contact Michigan directly. As much as we know about Michigan, we do not have a sayin how the university is run. You need to contact a person at the University to get all the details regarding transfer credits and graduation requirements. I have a feeliing the process will be too lengthy and complicated.</p>
<p>Yes, it is possible. You would apply as a Cross-Campus Transfer to Ross and pursue a dual degree with LSA. You will be adding 3 years minimum (due to Ross scheduling) to your undergraduate career.</p>
<p>[Dual</a> Degrees - Stephen M. Ross School of Business](<a href=“http://www.bus.umich.edu/Academics/SpecialPrograms/DualDegrees/BBADual/BBALSADual.htm]Dual”>LSA/BBA Dual Degree - Academics at the Michigan Ross School of Business)</p>
<p>The ONLY way I would recommend it at this point, would be if your transfer credit came over as mostly departmental credit, as it’s next to useless except for bumping you into higher tuition brackets, unless the courses were upper level and you get a good advisor who is willing to direct some of them toward your concentration.</p>
<p>JJJJust, you are a savior! how do I know if it will transfer as departmental credit? By the way, they had me as an undecided major. I read the Ross admission site, and it said that I needed a minimum of 27 credits at UM before I apply for Ross, is that true? What if I took my pre-req at another institution, will Ross discounted them if I did not take it at UM? I will definitely call tomorrow and ask…</p>
<p>I am so tempted to just pay the $200 deposit and start picking classes. But I really want to know all the facts before I matriculate.</p>
<p>[UM</a> Transfer Credit Equivalencies](<a href=“http://www.ugadmiss.umich.edu/TCE/Public/CT_TCESearch.aspx]UM”>UM Transfer Credit Equivalencies). It has a list of all courses that have been previously evaluated for transfer credit and shows what they transfer as. </p>
<p>Everyone is admitted to LSA in the LSA Undclared program.</p>
<p>Yes, to be a cross-campus transfer, you must take 27 credits in residence at UM Ann Arbor, unless you apply to Ross in the same term as your matriculation. You can count external credits for the prereqs only if they transfer as equivalent courses – not as departmental credit. They’ll consider the grades and general rigor of the schools curriculum. If you haven’t already taken the prereqs and you want to transfer them from elsewhere, once you reach 60 credits, you can only transfer courses from a four year school (which IMHO is the silliest policy UM has) up to a limit of 60 total transfer credits.</p>
<p>Since I am living in Asia I shall give my opinion.
Top Public Schools in the eyes of Asians in no particular order:</p>
<ol>
<li>U California Berkeley</li>
<li>U Michigan</li>
<li>U Texas</li>
<li>Texas A&M</li>
<li>UCLA</li>
<li>U Illinois (Supposedly known to be a very good Engineering school)</li>
<li>U Wisconsin Madison</li>
<li>Georgia Tech (Reasons Similar as U Illinois)</li>
<li>Purdue (good Engr reputation among Asians)</li>
<li>U Washington @ Seattle</li>
<li>U Minnesota
To be honest, I have never heard of U Virginia or UNC before in my life before applying for college.</li>
</ol>
<p>Many of the top lawyers in Italy went to MIchigan for an LLM so, at least in the legal community, U of M may be the best known of these instititutions</p>