UMich or Washu St. Louis

<p>I recently found out I was rejected from the Ross pre admit program at Michigan and it's causing me to really consider Washu. I'm in the Olin school of business at Washu and therefore have the security of being in the business program, unlike at Michigan. </p>

<p>I understand pre admit is very competitive, but so is regular admissions for freshmen. I certainly see myself fitting in more at Michigan as I like that it is a bigger school with big sports and Greek life. However, I'm concerned I will not get into Ross and therefore have to totally change my career aspirations. Washu provides the security of a business school, but I do not like how small it is and don't see it as being a great fit. However, I could see myself finding a niche.</p>

<p>Ross regular admissions from last year admitted about 440 kids out of about 1,100 applicants. Certainly better chances than the pre admit, but by no means a guarantee. I need help deciding if I should take the security of Washu or take the risk of Ross admissions in order to go to the school I would enjoy more. Thanks!</p>

<p>Washington University is a great college maybe better than UMich overall. Since you want to study something related business, play safe and choose Washington University as you were not admitted to Ross.</p>

<p>Both schools are very strong. If you were admitted to WUSTL, you are obviously a very good student and should do well enough at Michigan in your freshman year to get into Ross. It seems that Michigan is your preferred environment for college, so I suggest you go with fit in your case.</p>

<p>If you truly know you want to do something with business, I’d take the sure thing at Wash U. Wash U is a very strong school and having a pre-admit there is hard to pass up.</p>

<p>…unless the OP doesn’t care for the atmosphere at WUSTL.</p>

<p>snooky188. Michigan is not a private university. It won’t discourage any student from applying to any of its programs. That said, I can assure you that quite a few applicants to Ross will not be qualified to be admitted.</p>

<p>You’re correct I do not like the atmosphere at WUSTL and would be much happier at Michigan it’s always been my dream school. I also understand some kids who apply to ross regular admission are unqualified. However, there still is that chance I don’t get it and would have to change majors and possibly career path.</p>

<p>Looks like you are 99% sure about business. Are you okay with transferring out of Michigan or choosing another major if you don’t get into Ross ? Go ahead take the risk, just don’t slack off at Michigan.</p>

<p>“You’re correct I do not like the atmosphere at WUSTL and would be much happier at Michigan it’s always been my dream school.”</p>

<p>Then there is your answer. Go to Michigan…</p>

<p>Have you visited both Michigan and WashU OP?</p>

<p>If so, and you are genuinely sure you don’t like the atmosphere at WashU, and you do like the atmosphere at Michigan, then you should definitely go to Michigan.</p>

<p>If you haven’t visited I would encourage you to visit both if you could.</p>

<p>I’ve visited both and definitely enjoy Michigan more. That cloud of uncertainty with Ross is the only thing holding me back.</p>

<p>I think you’ll have to weight how important business school is for you. If you know it is exactly what you want to do, then I’d probably go with WashU, even knowing you may think Michigan is a better fit.</p>

<p>The thing is with fit, I think wherever you end up you find a niche and end up enjoying it. Of course there are exceptions to this and people do end up transferring sometimes, but in general I think you learn to like wherever you attend, and ultimately wind up happy you made that decision. From this angle, wether you went to Michigan or WashU I think you’d enjoy it and find your niche.</p>

<p>jakey54. The OP is not shut off from going to Ross. The vast majority of students start at Michigan and apply after their freshman year. Like I stated earlier, anyone who is smart enough to get not WUSTL should also be smart enough to get into Ross. WUSTL is a fine school, however it does not offer the social aspects that the OP is looking for.</p>

<p>Getting into Ross as a Sophomore is not as hard as people think. Many Michigan students with 3.0-3.4 GPAs apply, and they are the ones who do not usually get in. The majority of Michigan students who complete Freshman year with a 3.5+ GPA are admitted to Ross. As XtremePower suggests, as long as snooky is committed to geting into Ross, I see no reason why a 3.5+ GPA cannot be achieved. Since Ross is a stronger Business school than Olin, and as the OP has clearly stated, Michigan is a better fit, I see nothing wrong with taking a calculated risk and going for Michigan.</p>

<p>48% of applicants got into Ross this year, according to a talk they gave at accepted students day for U Mich. They also said they do not consider SAT’s or grades from high school, only what the applicant has done their first year at U Mich and their essay(s?).</p>

<p>What’s the worst case scenario?
Say you choose Michigan but aren’t admitted to Ross.
So you major in economics. Would you much rather study business at WUSTL than econ at Michigan? </p>

<p>Note that econ majors seem to have significantly higher earning power than business majors, if the payscale data is to be believed.
[Majors</a> That Pay You Back ? PayScale College Salary Report 2012-13](<a href=“http://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report-2013/majors-that-pay-you-back]Majors”>http://www.payscale.com/college-salary-report-2013/majors-that-pay-you-back)</p>

<p>I don’t understand why not getting into Ross would force you to totally change career aspirations.</p>

<p>I’ve always assumed going to an undergrad business school such as Ross or Olin would be much more beneficial than an Econ major</p>

<p>So, what have you decided snooky?</p>

<p>Pretty comparable but I would go with Michigan.</p>

<p>Here are some rankings that show that they are peer schools.
[The</a> Complete Ranking: Best Undergraduate Business Schools 2013 - Businessweek](<a href=“Bloomberg - Are you a robot?”>Bloomberg - Are you a robot?)</p>