UMich Ros EA or RD?

<p>I am applying to UMich this fall and I am still debating on whether or not I should apply EA. Currently, my GPA is 3.77 UW. My rank is 20/591 so I am in the top 3% of my class. I am still trying to boost my ACT score a bit more. My ecs are great. If I apply EA then I will submit 3.77 as my Gpa if I apply RD and I get straight As next year then my GPA will be 3.8. My classes are very rigorous. Also, quick question, If I apply EA to Ross can I still get in to the regular college in case Ross doesn't work out right now and then transfer later?</p>

<p>For UMich, you should apply EA as they don’t reject applicants. The worse case is you may be deferred to RD. Then you may still submit new score and transcript before final decision. If you are not accepted by Ross pre-admission, you may still be accepted by LSA if qualified.</p>

<p>Apply EA. If you apply EA to Ross, you get into UM first and then they consider you for Ross early admit. If you do not get into Ross early admit you are still in UM and can apply to Ross during your freshman year. Remember that they only take a small percentage of the Ross class early admit. I do not know the exact percentage but it is only somewhere between 10-20% of the Ross class.</p>

<p>Apply EA. Same reasoning as other posters said, but in my experience, at my school, kids were accepted EA, and then when other kids applied RD, they were waitlisted even though they were still qualified. Obviously there are more “spots” open during EA and your stats seem good.</p>

<p>Last year, they pre-admit 358 but the yield rate is not clear. Only 77 of pre-admitted students from 2012 were actually enrolled. While 435 were admitted in sophomore. So around 15-20% enrolled students were pre-admitted sounds about right for last year. The pre-admission acceptance rate was ~18% last year while sophomore admission rate is around 40%. It sounds like a higher chance to get in as sophomore, but it is not really easier as you are competing with more qualified enrolled freshmen.<br>
<a href=“Bachelor of Business Administration | Michigan Ross”>http://www.bus.umich.edu/admissions/UndergraduatePrograms/PDF/BBA_InfoSheet_lo.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Your GPA is a bit low for Pre-admit to Ross, but still apply! Make sure to get your UM application in for Early Action, as it is highly recommended for PA to Ross. PA at Ross is competitive, so do not worry if you do not get in. If you get rejected Pre-admit to Ross, it will not hurt you chances for regular admit to Ross. It is definitely worth a shot to apply! I got in Pre-admit this year to Ross. If you have any more questions just ask.</p>

<p>@allforthebest‌ thanks for the advice… do you think I have a chance for LSA though?</p>

<p>Also, I understand that my UW GPA may seem low, however, my W GPA is 4.62. Do they consider your weighted GPA? I did take a lot of tough courses, so I hope they consider my GPA relative to my courses and the rest of my class…</p>

<p>100% apply EA. I just got accepted as a pre-admit this year with a 3.7 UW – your GPA is fine and your rank seems outstanding. Those who apply EA get priority when it comes to the Ross admission. This means that RD applicants are being looked at with even less available spaces. I know that many RD applicants didn’t even get to hear back from Ross until after May 1st because of this. First you apply to LSA/CoE/etc. in December and if you get in, then your applicant gets sent to Ross and you will hear back several months later. So, yes, you can get in to Michigan without getting into Ross as a pre-admit. If you have any other questions feel free to ask (though I don’t go on here quite a lot). Good luck :)</p>

<p>Thanks! @WishfulWolverine‌ </p>

<p>Your uwGPA at 3.77 is still within mid 50. You should have more concern about your ACT at 28 which is significantly below the 25% of 30 for LSA this year. Work hard on it to bring it to 32+ for a better chance as oos applicant.</p>

<p>@Foreverindia they’ll look at your UW GPA, but they will certainly consider the rigor of your classes. Your GPA is alright for admission to LSA. Your ACT may be a bit low. Are you in state or out of state? If your in state, your ACT will get you in, but it may get you deferred at first. </p>

<p>Honestly, you have very low chance of getting preferred admission from Ross out of highschool. The ones got accepted are Ivy League bound. That’s why the enroll rate is so low. I personally know 4 kids got accepted into preferred admission. One went to U Penn, two went to U of Chicago. One attended Ross and just greduated.</p>

<p>Even after the first year, it’s still very difficult to get in. Just heard all my daughter’s freshman friends got rejected. Two of them had 3.8 GPA in their freshman year which is pretty impressive especially one is in engineering shcool. 2 of her sophomore friends got in. But the presentation I attended actually showing sophomore admission rate is much lower than freshman. So even if you try twice, the chance of getting rejected increases.</p>

<p>It’s so depressing, because getting into Ross is also my son’s dream. Now I am serious thinking sending him elsewhere if he is not accepted straight out of highschool.</p>

<p>EA is highly contextual. Everyone says apply EA but they don’t consider the fact that if you wait four months you could submit more polished essays, a better ACT score, SEM7 dual enroll grades, etc. Fact is they absolutely do NOT give your app a thorough re-review in Jan/Feb if you get deferred. Unless you’re a strong match or have a hook, I would not recommend EA.</p>

<p>@beckstiles You point on more polished essays is very true, however, one can always submit better ACT score and mid year report if not accepted at EA. For these, there is no disadvantage by applying EA as there is rarely a direct EA rejection at Umich. They will review the deferred applicant with the update scores and GPA among other RD applicants anyway.</p>

<p>EA benefits the college more than it benefits the average applicant.</p>

<p>@JH8888‌ the sophomore acceptance rate is actually significantly higher. Pre admit acceptance rate is around ~17% while the sophomore acceptance rate is around 35%. For this reason, Michigan/Ross actually encourages pre admit rejects to reapply the following year. </p>

<p>To the OP, IMO not applying EA would be a huge mistake. Michigan doesn’t reject EA applicants so you have nothing to lose; more often than not, those 3 extra months of polishing don’t result in “game changing” essays. Also definitely work to get that ACT up. I’d say without 31+ (ideally 33+), pre-admit is likely out of the question. </p>

<p>@WishfulWolverine‌ Are you suggesting students don’t learn anything or mature during their seventh semester of high school?</p>

<p>@beckstiles‌ I would say for most high schoolers, not enough to give up showing the interest that EA implies. Not to mention, you get to hear back sooner and if deferred, you have a chance to retake your SATs, send in more material, e-mail your counselor, do something to change their minds, etc. IMO there is no reason for the average applicant to not be ready by November 1st. </p>

<p>And IMO, the EA crusade is nothing more than propaganda from the Ivory Tower to make their jobs that much easier, at the expense of the average family.</p>