I feel like it will be the 30th which is funny because my brother is taking USMLE Step 1 on that day as well
It’s Spring Break at UMKC that last week of March, so it’s possible that applicants will start hearing around March 28th and going forward. Last year was around March 27th, I believe, based on looking at prior posts. The official date you have to hear by from a college/university regarding acceptance/rejection is April 1st, with the official date you have to respond to that offer being May 1st.
Has anybody started hearing back from other schools they applied to?
@Roentgen, is April 1 the deadline for undergraduate programs only, or for BS/MD programs as well?
@NervousDad01, April 1st is for BOTH, as a BS/MD track is still considered to be a program under the undergraduate university, for all intents and purposes. It’s sort of a national agreed upon official consensus date by which colleges and universities across the nation have to give you a decision by (they can tell you earlier if they want). You then get 1 month to go thru you decision making process with yourself and family, seeing what financial aid you get, etc. and then you have to give a decision by May 1st, usually securing your spot with a deposit.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rebecca-joseph/march-madness-for-college_1_b_5056147.html
http://wiselikeus.com/collegewise/2012/02/do-you-really-have-until-may-1-to-decide.html
@Watang, I might be the odd one out, but I tend to ignore the admissions result date so I don’t stress. Staying away from the forum for a few days definitely helps! 
… Then some random person comes up and asks me “So where are you going to college?” ~X( and the nervousness sets back in again, haha.
Based on how it played out last year, it seems like the acceptances were more staggered, meaning not all in one day where everyone got the email around the same time. The reason is probably that the school has to double and triple check the roster to make sure they’re sending the automated email to the right people. There have been disasters in the past at other higher education institutions - although at the undergraduate level, most notably Johns Hopkins. So the med school wants to avoid this type of scenario as much as possible.
Hey guys!! Just wanted to post UMKC’s residency match list for this year, hot off the presses:
http://med.umkc.edu/sa/match-day-2016/
Will probably give my analysis of this year’s match list, like I did for last year, later on today or this weekend. Also will be happy to answer any questions you might have about it, i.e. terminology, etc.
Wow someone matched into Orthopedic Surgery at Stanford
@Watang, that student was also Junior AOA and took one year off from medical school to do a research fellowship at the National Institutes of Health (NIH): http://med.umkc.edu/soms-montgomery-working-alongside-nih-scientists/. Not IN ANY WAY to detract from his wonderful achievement, but just to give those who may not be in the know, some context when it comes to properly evaluating match lists of a particular medical school, as to how these type of things factor into the residency match when it comes to specialty and caliber/tier of institution.
One of my brother’s friends in this class matched into UChicago and Washu. Can you explain how this works?
Sure! So just to get our terms straight, every physician completes an internship and a residency after medical school, in order to be able to practice in the United States. You apply for this during your last year of medical school. Internship is defined as your first year in clinical medicine/training after graduating from medical school, although supervised. After that intern year, you do however many specified number of years of residency training in your specialty, in order to become a board certified physician in that field. This can range anywhere from 3 to 7 years:
https://residency.wustl.edu/Residencies/Pages/LengthofResidencies.asp
So for residencies like Internal Medicine (3 years long), Pediatrics (3), OB-Gyn (4), Psychiatry (4), General Surgery (5), Family Medicine (3), etc. that internship year is already built into the residency cake, so to speak. These are usually called categorical residencies. Meaning your first year in your specialty counts towards that internship requirement and is already included as part of the residency. So when you apply to a Pediatrics residency, for example, you don’t have to also apply for a separate internship year.
However, in fields like Radiology (4), Anesthesiology (3), Derm (3), Radiation Oncology (4), Ophthalmology (3), Physical Medicine & Rehab (3), Neurology (3) - not including Child Neurology, etc. the internship portion is usually not already built into that residency cake, but is still a prerequisite to entering that residency. So you have to also apply for an internship position, as well as your residency specialty position at the same time in your last year of med school. That internship year is a broad-based year outside of your field which can be in a broader specialty (Internal Medicine, General Surgery, Pediatrics, etc.) called a “Preliminary” year. All your rotations in that year will fit under that specialty category/department in some way. Or you can do what is called a “Transitional” Year, in which you rotate, a.k.a. transition, thru different departments from 1 month to another within that year – for example: 1 month Emergency Medicine, 1 month Ambulatory Care, 1 month General Surgery, 1 month ICU, several months of electives which you can choose, etc. After that broad-based internship year not in your field, you then enter your true residency specialty. Hence why these residencies are called advanced residencies, because you have to complete a separate internship year before you get to “advance” to your field.
So in the case you mention, that person will do 1 year of Internal Medicine at University of Chicago-Northshore (separate hospital from University of Chicago-Pritzker which is what most people think of). Then he will enter his “real” specialty of Radiology at Wash U in St. Louis, which he will do 4 years of Diagnostic Radiology training. During that time, he can then decide whether or not after residency, to subspecialize and do a fellowship, which can be in areas like Neuroradiology, Nuclear Medicine, Interventional Radiology, Pediatric Radiology, etc. In radiology, each of those subspecialty fellowships are usually 1-2 years in length.
https://residency.wustl.edu/Residencies/Pages/CategoricalvsPreliminary.aspx
Hope that explains things better, although long-winded (as usual) on my part.
Sorry that link above should be: https://residency.wustl.edu/Residencies/Pages/LengthofResidencies.aspx
@Roentgen Thank you for the detailed response!
@Roentgen, yes that really clears it up as I was wondering so as well. Ty!
@AtticusFinchh, yes, it looks a little confusing to an outsider, as it has two separate lines for some students, so you might think it was 2 separate residencies, but that’s not the case (Thank God). Your internship and your advanced residency don’t have to be in the same city, or even the same state, so for those people, they’d have to move twice - once right before starting internship, and once before starting residency.
Thank you @blugrn6 and @Roentgen! I now have a much clearer picture and understanding of the frequently talked about Docent experience at UMKC from interview day. Are you with the same docent for all of the first 2 years, or just the first year? What about the last 4 years? What if your docent isn’t very good with teaching and you want to change docents? Is there any option to change to someone else?
So I don’t know how it is like now in the first 2 years (it changes so often), but I’ve never known anyone who felt it was bad enough in the first 2 years, to where they needed a change of docent during that time period. When you move up to Hospital Hill, in theory, you are to be with that one docent for the entire 4 years you’re there (assuming your docent actually stays for all 4 years and doesn’t leave on his/her own accord). I don’t know how it is like now, but when I was there, you got ONE time (and only one time) to be able to initiate a change in your docent if you truly weren’t happy for whatever reason – whether due to unending personality conflict, felt like your docent wasn’t really teaching, poor Docent team dynamics, etc. You had to petition the Council on Curriculum and then get signatures from several people, usually your ETC, your current Docent (not hard to get, as they realize things sometimes don’t work out), the Council on Curriculum Chair, and the Associate Dean for Student Affairs who then assigns you your new Docent.
I’m not counting in this the times docents change due to student schedule conflicts - i.e. failure/withdrawal from a required course, so retaking of that course prevents you from taking future consecutive DoRos with your Docent and Docent team, etc. or some leaves of absence, etc.
To those PMing me and are asking, I’ll do the match list analysis later on this week. The list might be updated and change a little bit after some of those who went thru the SOAP process (what used to be called The Scramble), so I want to make sure that the numbers and institutions are right. So in the meantime, here are match lists in past years that you can look at, for UMKC, UM-Columbia (Mizzou), and Wash U.
UMKC:
2003-2014: http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/17808190/#Comment_17808190
2014: http://med.umkc.edu/sa/match-day-2014/
2015: http://med.umkc.edu/sa/match-day-2015/
2016: http://med.umkc.edu/sa/match-day-2016/
Mizzou:
http://medicine.missouri.edu/students/match-lists.html
Wash U in St. Louis:
https://residency.wustl.edu/Residencies/WUSMMatch/Pages/Home.aspx
I was looking here and University of Michigan has their answers to the 35 Questions: https://medicine.umich.edu/medschool/education/md-program/md-admissions/faqs/aamc-michigan%E2%80%99s-35-answers. Does UMKC have anything similar?
Also are any of the tests you take at UMKC standardized? I was trying to find the answer to #7 on the 35 Questions for UMKC: “7. Are standardized tests used such as the NBME shelf exams?” and from @Roentgen’s question list as to whether there were tests you can take to track your progress towards Step 1.