UMKC or Drexel

<p>Did I not say I wanted opinion on Drexel Medical specifically on post #50? You gave me opinions on Drexel University on post #51.</p>

<p>Fianchetto you wont last 2 weeks in Philly.</p>

<p>Funny that you mention NYMC as they just recently lost one of their teaching hospitals which is closing down (and thus losing all the residency programs that operated within it) - St. Vincent Hospital: [St</a>. Vincent’s Hospital to Close](<a href=“Svcmc.org”>Svcmc.org). So the residents now have to scurry to find other residency programs that will take them since their own is closing. I can’t speak for SDN, but on CC, naturally Drexel will get bashed more over NYMC, even though they are ranked the same, bc Drexel is the only one out of the two that offers a Bachelor/MD program. NYMC does not.</p>

<p>I dont know if their is any point in answering this thread just because it has taken another turn, but i do want to put my two cents in.</p>

<p>I go to the Villanova/Drexel Program, and since you are only concentrating on the medical school, not the undergrad, i feel like i can give some advice.
Drexel is a pretty good medical school. I know in comparison to others, especially the ones around it, it does not have the best of reputations, but the medical school does give students a variety of ways to get a solid education: It has the IFM or PIL track the first two years of medical school, a clerkship route or pathway route the last two years, the med school is is affiliated with many different hospitals which is helpful the last two years of medical school, and the medical school itself is very large and very clean with great cadaver labs and other great facilities. The program is good too, with 7 years to do undergrad and med school with no summers and what not. I know plenty of people who have gone to UMKC’s program and have had trouble finishing in 6 years. Plus, UMKC definitely has a worse medical school than Drexel.
I know you worked hard to get into the programs, but if you wanted to try your luck getting into a better medical school, you would want to go to a smaller school like Xavier where you could shine. I actually dont know anything about Xavier, so i can’t judge.</p>

<p>and yes i spelled their wrong in the first sentence, my bad: i meant there. Plus i mixed up the last two years: you dont get a choice, clerkship is 3rd year and pathway is 4th year. Even then, the option of IFM or PIL the first two years is convenient.</p>

<p>Supersweet, is undergrad with premed courses (Bio/Chem/Physics/Orgo Chem) difficult to get a high GPA in at Drexel? Wouldn’t it be easier for fianchetto to just do the undergrad portion of the Bachelor/MD program at Drexel, take the MCAT and build his CV in Philadelphia (Healthcare experience, Community service, Leadership activities, Honors, Extracurricular and Team activities, Employment, Summer Activities) and apply out if necessary (and still retain his Drexel Med if it doesn’t work out)?</p>

<p>supersweet, thanks for the advice. I really have no desire to go to a better medical school. So if Drexel Med can give me a solid medical education and give me a fighting chance at competitive residencies, then I am satisfied. And besides, I like the accelerated aspect of the program. If I apply out, it becomes 8 years.</p>

<p>MD2B2012, sadly Drexel Med is a binding program. It does not let you apply out.</p>

<p>The BS/MD students are allowed to skip some undergraduate courses in order to finish the majority of their undergrad studies in 3 years, so should you drop out of the program you would need to go back and complete other requirements to get your full undergrad degree. I think the BS/MD students at Drexel actually have an easier time than regular pre-meds because they can use most of their AP credits (Drexel only takes 5s unless you are in an accelerated program, in which case I believe you can use 4s as well). This translates into less credits per term and more free time. In some cases, students have to actually search for random electives in order to meet the minimum credit requirement. It’s not hard to keep a high GPA as long as you don’t completely slack off and actually do the work. If someone failed out of the program it’s probably because they stopped going to class and doing any work (which has happened…but it boggles my mind why someone would go through the effort to get into a BS/MD program and then completely stop caring). </p>

<p>I can’t tell you much about the medical school, but the undergraduate component is certainly not as bad as clfdwlr makes it out to be. Are there students that hate Drexel? Yes (but such is the case at every school). There is a lot of red tape you sometimes have to bypass, but if you take advantage of what Drexel has to offer, you WILL enjoy yourself. Drexel is certainly not in the worst part of Philadelphia, and as long as you don’t stray too far north or west of campus you will be perfectly fine. </p>

<p>For the record, I am not a BS/MD student at Drexel, but many of my close friends are in the program and I consistently take classes with them. If you have further questions, let me know and I will try to answer them as honestly as possible.</p>

<p>The Drexel BA/BS/MD program is very particular on their requirements before they allow you into their medical school:</p>

<p>"While in the undergraduate portion of the program, students must maintain at least a 3.5 GPA in all coursework, including all BCPM classes (all biological sciences, chemistry, physics, and math), without repeating a course and with no grade less than a C. (So you need at least a 3.5 cumulative GPA and at least a 3.5 BCPM GPA)</p>

<p>The MCAT is required prior to matriculation into the College of Medicine. Students must receive a minimum MCAT score of “9”or better in the verbal section; “10” or better in the physical and biological science sections; a total minimum score of 31 (with no individual score less than “8”); and a letter score of “P” or higher in the MCAT writing section. Acceptance into the College of Medicine is not guaranteed."</p>

<p>MD2B2012, I don’t know why you emphasized “without repeating a course”. And I am aware of all the requirements. These requirements don’t seem extraordinary to maintain; this is what’s required for most premeds anyway, so I don’t see why it’s a big deal.</p>

<p>I bolded it as that was the situation the other student on CC (who was ready to get kicked out) was in. It was one mistake and he was on the cutting board for dismissal. With such intricate requirements to even enter the medical school, you might as well go for a much better medical school than a school at the caliber of Drexel. A 31 on the MCAT is not a cakewalk and there are tons of students who get into medical school without a 31, P score. I’m just not seeing what advantage you are actually getting through the program to make things easier on you once you’re actually in the Bachelor/MD program. Even the medical school part is nowhere close to guaranteed.</p>

<p>Usually, its pretty hard to get a C in a course though. I personally do not know anyone in the lehigh, drexel, or villanova programs who has ever gotten kicked out because of getting a C. Also a 3.5 isnt that hard to maintain, since you have all three years to get that 3.5. If on semester doesnt go well, you can take easy courses next semester and bring you gpa up. Also, the 31 on the MCAT isnt that bad just because you are allowed to take it up to 3 times. Honestly, most people need a 3.6 or 3.7 to get into medical school, so a 3.5 isnt bad, and for any really good medical school you would need higher than a 31. This program is actually a lot easier than going the normal way. Also, he can still build his CV while in the program if he wanted to for residency by doing research or something, but not having to do extra work to build up the CV for medical school is definitely nice.</p>

<p>lol this thread got wiped. all of clf’s ■■■■■ posts are gone. I hope that doesn’t make my posts sound like I’m responding to no one in particular.</p>

<p>I wonder if he got banned.</p>

<p>Also does anyone have any comment on Drexel Med’s match list? I was wondering how good it is compared to other med schools.</p>

<p>This is the match list from 2009:
[2009</a> Match Results](<a href=“http://webcampus.drexelmed.edu/CDC/files/2009_Match_Results.html]2009”>http://webcampus.drexelmed.edu/CDC/files/2009_Match_Results.html)</p>

<p>2006: [2006</a> Match Results](<a href=“http://webcampus.drexelmed.edu/CDC/files/2006_Match_Results.html]2006”>http://webcampus.drexelmed.edu/CDC/files/2006_Match_Results.html)
2007: [2007</a> Match Results](<a href=“http://webcampus.drexelmed.edu/CDC/files/2007_Match_Results.html]2007”>http://webcampus.drexelmed.edu/CDC/files/2007_Match_Results.html)
2008: [2008</a> Match Results](<a href=“http://webcampus.drexelmed.edu/CDC/files/2008_Match_Results.html]2008”>http://webcampus.drexelmed.edu/CDC/files/2008_Match_Results.html)
2009: [2009</a> Match Results](<a href=“http://webcampus.drexelmed.edu/CDC/files/2009_Match_Results.html]2009”>http://webcampus.drexelmed.edu/CDC/files/2009_Match_Results.html)
2010: [2010</a> Match Results](<a href=“http://webcampus.drexelmed.edu/CDC/files/2010_Match_Results.html]2010”>http://webcampus.drexelmed.edu/CDC/files/2010_Match_Results.html)</p>

<p>Overall, in comparison to higher ranked medical schools, I personally was not impressed, esp. in 2010.</p>

<p>Could you comment on why you were not impressed? Is it because of the high number of family medicine and pediatrics matches? I think there is a fair amount of ortho, anesthesiology, ophthalmology, and radiology matches.</p>

<p>And does medicine-preliminary mean u didnt match and have to apply again for PGY-2 positions? Is that generally a bad thing?</p>

<p>Hey guys, sorry to interject with what should be on another thread (I really wanted your opinions). </p>

<p>So basically, I am still waiting for the result from Howard BS/MD. And I’m looking for alternatives to what I should do if I don’t get into the program (I pray that I do). I can either go to Howard (full ride + room ->not that hard to get to be brutally honest, but I am thankful for it) or VCU (who gave me 1/4th ride as an OOS, but are considering me for additional scholarship). </p>

<p>So, where do you guys think I should go if I don’t get in?
I know that Howard is ranked above VCU (VCU = 3rd tier and Howard = 95th), but I don’t know how true that is.</p>

<p>Thank you very much for your time guys!</p>

<p>Daksh3, if you honestly want an opinion on your topic, why don’t you actually start your own thread instead of jacking fianchetto’s thread in the middle and veer it off topic, esp. considering your choices of Howard and VCU have nothing to do with Fianchetto’s school choices of UMKC and Drexel?</p>

<p>Sorry, I’ll do that.</p>

<p>Fianchetto, my advice to you is to take the Drexel program. The medical school is what you make it to be. I know students who graduated from the 7 year program and are in wonderful residency programs. Every medical school is going to have some unhappy students but for the most part the students at Drexel are happy.</p>