<p>I’m not out to become a CEO. I want to be an actuary (as my first choice). I want a good job with good start out pay and great opportunities.
I have been a hard worker all my life, and don’t let setbacks ruin me.</p>
<p>I will find a party both places because I’m very social but that doesn’t concern me.</p>
<p>Thats my point of view.</p>
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Because 17 out of 390,000 living alumni obviously has a huge impact on the typical undergraduate student :rolleyes:
I stand by my earlier post. Wisconsin is the better actuarial program. But, if you have any significant reason to prefer Minnesota, there is no reason you couldn’t be just as successful there.</p>
<p>Actually the CEO thing has brought UW much attention in the business and other press which does help in recruiting for all students. Virtually every business publication has written some version of the story. So it is important to even the future actuaries and I’m sure several former actuaries now head insurance companies so there you are. Wisconsin is home to several major insurance companies. It’s a big business there.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t want to work in Wisconsin though. Minnesota or Chicago.</p>
<p>Me neither except for Madison. But like many Badgers–I went straight to Chicago and did not look at jobs anywhere else. To me Minny was just a bigger Madison while Chicago is a real city.</p>
<p>Hahaha so in order to be a real city in your eyes you have to have a metro of 9.5 million people or more?</p>
<p>A bigger Madison? Really? A metro of over 3 million people versus one of a tad over 500,000. So is Milwaukee a bigger Madison? Or just a bigger Beloit?</p>
<p>barrons is obviously biased toward Madison :/</p>
<p>Wisconsin has a finance/ibanking club where you can gain practical experience working in finance consulting engagements and manage real money. You can join as an undergrad if you are good enough. Barrons can tell you more about it.</p>
<p>Btw, you guys are losing Dean Alison after the summer. We are stealing her from you.</p>
<p>Good stuff, but I’m a bit confused.
I’m leaning heavily towards Minnesota, is there any reason I should choose Wisconsin over Minnesota?
The money is the same, so it is of no difference for me.</p>
<p>In Minnesota I am guaranteed business school while in Wisconsin I apply after freshman year.
This is why Minnesota sounds more appealing to me.</p>
<p>You can get into actuarial work with a degree in math or econ too, so the business school is not critical.</p>
<p>As I said above, if you have a reason to prefer Minnesota, it is a fine choice. If not, I would lean very slightly toward Wisconsin in this scenario.</p>
<p>Barrons is biased toward Wisconsin and I’m biased toward Minnesota. Take all advice for what it is worth.</p>
<p>The same stuff three 6 times over is still not a worldclass city. Minny-St Paul is just like linking a bunch of Madison’s together without the originality or quality of a Chicago. Most of Minny is quite suburban in style with lots of smaller SF homes–more like Madison than Chicago which has neighborhoods that are all highrises and rowhouses. Minny is just not really very urban. The skyline is a joke. </p>
<p>UW is also designated a center of actuarial excellence by the Society of Actuaries.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.bus.wisc.edu/asrmi/documents/act-2010-vol7-iss2.pdf[/url]”>http://www.bus.wisc.edu/asrmi/documents/act-2010-vol7-iss2.pdf</a></p>
<p>Ok so I visited Madison and now I’ve been thinking lately how much harder I now have to think about Minnesota vs Wisconsin.</p>
<p>Anything else?</p>
<p>bump er up</p>
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<p>Oh, please barrons, you can’t be serious! “Like linking a bunch of Madison’s [sic] together”? Granted, we don’t have as many high-rises as Chicago. But so what? Chicago doesn’t have as many as New York. Does that impair Chicago’s “originality or quality” as a city? And in case you haven’t been to Chicago lately, I’d point out that most of it—well over 90% of it, maybe 95%—is NOT high-density urban. Instead it’s neighborhoods of single-family homes and 2- and 3-flat buildings, a lot like . . . well a lot like Minneapolis-St. Paul, or if you prefer, like “linking a bunch of Madisons together.” That doesn’t keep those neighborhoods from being diverse and dynamic and bubbling over with creative energy. A lot like Minneapolis-St. Paul.</p>
<p>To compare Minneapolis-St. Paul to Madison is a bad joke. I mean, Madison’s a nice college town and all, and it has the most bars and highest alcohol consumption per capita in the nation, so if that’s your thing, fine. But in comparison to MSP Madison is VERY small-town. Ever checked out our theater scene? By consensus MSP has at least the #3 professional theater scene in the US after New York and Chicago, and by many accounts is pressing Chicago for #2, with more theater seats per capita than anywhere in the world except NYC and scads of national awards for original productions. On that score Madison is . . . well, perhaps a half step ahead of Dubuque. </p>
<p>Of the 4 major professional sports, how many franchises does Madison have? Zero, you say? MSP: 4 for 4. Actually, 7 professional sports franchises if you include women’s basketball (Lynx), soccer (Thunder), and box lacrosse (Swarm).</p>
<p>Major nationally and internationally regarded art museums? MSP 2, Madison 0. </p>
<p>Nationally and internationally acclaimed orchestras? MSP 2, Madison 0.</p>
<p>Pop culture? MSP can claim the likes of the Andrews Sisters, Bob Dylan, Prince, Leo Kottke, The Replacements, Husker Du, Atmosphere, among others. Madison? Well, you tell me.</p>
<p>Literature? How about MSP’s F. Scott Fitzgerald, Sinclair Lewis, Carol Bly, Robert Bly, Louise Erdrich, Garrison Keillor, for starters. And Madison?</p>
<p>And there’s a reason MSP keeps showing up at or near the top of all those “best cities” lists: #1 “Most Affordable Places to Live Well” (Forbes, 2007); #5 globally in “Worldwide Quality of Living Survey” (2007); #19 globally in"Most Livable Cities in the World" <a href=“Monocle%202008”>one of only 2 U.S. cities on the list</a>; #3 in U.S. for "best overall quality of life (Portfolio.com); #10 “Fun City” (Portfolio.com/bizjournals 2010 “fun factor report”); #1 city for technology in the U.S. (Popular Science); #3 “Most Literate Cities” (SCSU, 2011); #1 for intelligence, #1 for cleanliness, #1 for shopping, #2 for public safety (Travel & Leisure 2009); #3 “America’s Favorite Cities” (Travel & Leisure 2009); #3 “best theater” (Travel & Leisure 2009); #3 “best public parks” (Travel # Leisure 2009); #4 “Best Areas to Work and Raise a Family” (Fortune 2010); #2 “Coolest Community for Young Talent” (Next Generation Consulting 2010); #1 “Best Midwestern City in Which to Live” (Money magazine); #2 “Smart Places to Live” based on “fun, vibrancy, and affordability” (Kiplinger’s magazine, 2006); #7 "most rocking cities in the U.S. by number of live rock shows per capita (Songkick, 2010); #1 (Target Field) and #3 (XCel Energy Center) for “best sports stadium experience” (ESPN: The Magazine 2010); #1 “Best Cities for Finding Employment” (Forbes, March 2011); #2 highest wage growth 2011 (Bureau of Labor Statistics); #6 top-performing post-recession economy (Brookings/London School of Economics “Global MetroMonitor” report, November 2010); #6 “Best Cities for New College Grads” (Bloomberg BusinessWeek 2010); #3 "America’s Best Cities for Young Professionals (Forbes 2010); #6 “Hottest Cities for Job Growth in the Next Decade” (CBS BNET 2010); #4 “best cities in the U.S. to build personal wealth” (Salary.com 2008); #1 “best cities for working mothers” (Forbes 2010); #8 “America’s Top Brainpower Cities” (Daily Beast 2010); #7 “Ten Smartest Metros” (Bizjournals 2008); #5 in “Creative Density” (Richard Florida/Atlantic 2010); #6 “World’s Most Eco-Friendly Cities” (Mercer consulting survey 2010); #1 “fastest residential internet” (Ookla 2010); #5 best public transportation (US News 2011); #1 “lowest stress cities” (Forbes 2011); #2 “'least stressful metros” (Portfolio.com 2010); #3 “healthiest metros” (American College of Sports Medicine); #4 “top summer vacation spots” (National Geographic 2011); #8 "Best Cities to Relocate to in America (Sperling 2010); #5 “best relocation destinations for young singles” and #6 “best relocation destinations for professionals in the job market” (Richard Florida 2009); #3 “best cities for singles” (Forbes 2008); #4 “happiest state” (University of Cambridge 2009); #1 “happiest cities for families” (Sperling Best Places 2009).</p>
<p>And Madison?</p>
<p>uw is still a much better school!</p>
<p>^ Not “much better,” and not better in everything!</p>
<p>Dang bclintonk, most epic post i’ve seen on cc lol.
but the bottom line, does it make sense to go to wisconsin or minnesota with my situation.</p>
<p>bclintonk awesome posts. Barrons needs to learn to stop talking now and then.</p>
<p>But, for the OP. In my opinion go to Minnesota. You have great access to a large amount of Fortune 500 companies and Traveler’s is literally a 15 minute drive from campus.</p>
<p>im gonna bump…</p>
<p>another bump~?</p>