I find it likely that it’ll be released on Friday. It doesn’t make sense to release them right before ConnectCarolina Goes out.
Has there ever been anyone accepted OOS with normal/decent stats and not 34+ ACT scores? Lol. I’m out of state and feel really helpless but this is my top choice school and I definetly don’t have those stats. But looks like from last years thread even high stats is not any guarantee you’ll get accepted. Who knows though, maybe they’ll be nice and give us a chance! Good luck to everyone though!
@annamanna anything is possible. Those stats are not requirements, just averages. All the time you see kids getting into schools over kids who had better stats, etc. Anything is possible and just know if they don’t accept you, it wasn’t meant to be, but you’ll end up in the right place. (Not saying you won’t be accepted, just a general statement)
@annamanna couldn’t agree more. OOS, 3.8GPA, 28ACT and UNC Simone of my top choices and these pages can make me feel hopeless even w good essays and ECs
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@annamanna Check message #435 at the bottom of page #29
“FWIW, my OOS un-hooked kid was accepted EA with a 33 ACT (good class ranking, ECs too)”
I have similar stats @nduclaunc and am super nervous but I’m sure whatever happens will ultimately be the best decision. If it doesn’t work out then it just wasn’t meant to be!
I saw that but that’s still a good score lol @TimeUpJunior
So true Anna.
Someone previously mentioned that they have seen that the out of state students are noticeably smarter than the in state students. As an out of state student myself, does anyone find that this creates a divide in the UNC community, whether it be through ability or location? Do the out of state students gravitate toward one another? If accepted to unc, (I have a 34 ACT and a 4.3 gpa but it could definitely go either way) the fact that 85+% of students come from in state is a little daunting. Anyone have any comments on this?
@lucky0318 - My d is an OOS freshman and has made plenty of friends both instate and out. And she has not mentioned that there is a distinct difference in the intellect of the kids. It is the hardest state school to get into in NC so they aren’t accepting just anyone. She loves it.
My daughter is an out of state sophomore and she also has a lot of OOS and instate friends. While it is true that to get in as an OOS student you generally have to have high scores and a high GPA, there are plenty of instate kids who have this as well. It is not an easy school to get into even instate. Being a state school the job of UNC is to educate the students in NC, therefore there will absolutely be a wider range of abilities than some some other schools such as Cornell ( for example). That being said, my daughter has plenty of instate friends and never discusses any distinct differences- as a matter of fact she often tells me how smart several of them are ( one of them got one of the big scholarships).
It did take some time for her to adjust to being an OOS student, but she loves it now and has friends from all over the country, and plenty from NC.
Why does unc enforce such a strict limit on out of state students and only allows 18%? Times have clearly changed since 30 years ago when it was enforced and its peer public elites have a much higher percentage of out of state students. Uva and Maryland have 30% and umich is 50% out of state! I don’t know why unc is falling behind on out of state students compared to its peers. More out of state students means more international and national fame and more money to the school.
I think their OOS commitment is a state law. It probably would take a lot to change that, but not sure. But you are right, they are one of the most strict with that. the U of California system also accepts a lot of OOS students now. I think they just need the full tuition to survive.
The 18% is a state law requirement. By comparison, UVA can admit a much higher proportion of OOS students in part because they rely less on public funding. (I don’t know the details - but have seen Dean J mention this in the UVA section of CC.)
Why is it a state law though? If the limit was removed would it be harder to get into unc because of the more competitive out of state students?
VA public schools must have 65% of their students be in state, it is a state law. So while it makes it much harder for OOS acceptances, NC is worse at only 18% OOS. A yr or so ago UNC accepted 19% and were hit with a $1 million fine so they aren’t likely to make that mistake again.
The citizens of NC through its lawmakers saw fit to limit OOS students to 18%. It is a state school and the taxpaying citizens of NC want to ensure that their tax dollars are being spent on their kids. We have a great flagship school that only has 18,500 undergraduate students, with each class being around 4500 students. UVA is really the only comparison on size. UMich and the UC schools have at least 10,000 more undergraduates. Every state school has a limit of OOS they will take, NC is just legislated. So, remove the limit and you may have a couple of hundred more OOS admitted, but in state will always be the priority.
Umich doesn’t have a limit out of state increased from 33% to 50% in just a few years
A big difference with Michigan (where my son goes) is that it gets only 12% of its funding from the state of Michigan. The alumni network is huge, many of them wealthy and incredibly loyal to Michigan. (e.g., Steve Ross for whom the business school is named, Fred Wilpon (owner of the NY Mets) for whom the baseball and softball complex is named.) @annamanna - my niece transferred from U Wisconsin to UNC after her freshman year and loved it. I can tell you it is a lot easier to go to UNC as an OOS student if you apply as a transfer student. First, the 18% applies only to freshman admission and, second (and this applies for transfer students anywhere), USNWR data do not include transfer students so Admissions is less sensitive to stats.
@lucky0318: I don’t think that there is a divide between in-state and OOS students based on ability or location. My perception from when I was at UNC 35 years ago, and which my OOS daughter has perhaps observed also, is that some in-state students (not all, of course) seem to take a little for granted, or perhaps not appreciate, what UNC is and has to offer; whereas I was darned grateful to be there, coming from OOS; and my daughter is very grateful to be there also.