<p>My guess is that they WERE successfull or would NOT have continued using it.
It is sickening how little value some have for human life. Not just Eve but this happens every day all across our country. We have seen too much at our colleges in this last year. Time to take back our streets and lock the thugs up. Its not just the victims, I see lives of the Criminals who are changed forever for stupid crimes.</p>
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<p>Let's face it; it's time we took a good long look at the 2nd Amendment in this country. </p>
<p>I now personally know, either directly or indirectly (through a child, parent, or sibling), 5 people in my lifetime who have been murdered with guns. That number doesn't include the son of a friend, a 13 year old boy who was accidentally killed by a loaded hunting rifle left in the house. </p>
<p>This is really getting out of hand. It's way too easy to secure guns in this country.</p>
<p>From Article today: According to a search warrant, police found Carson's cell phone near a shopping center located on the main road between Chapel Hill and Durham, about 1? miles from the scene of her death. Detectives have yet to locate her wallet or keys. </p>
<p>In Auburn, the article stated: In another case involving a female student, Auburn University in Alabama has begun new security measures since 18-year-old Lauren Burk's abduction and shooting death....Maj. Melvin Owens, Auburn's executive director of security and public safety, said Monday the school has increased the hours of its security shuttles and has implemented an escort service for students leaving the library.</p>
<p>Luckily UNC already has a great shuttle service on campus the P2P and perhaps we can visit extending it during exam time like the week Eve was killed. However, Eve did live off campus....perhaps some foot traffic policemen during the night hours would be good. They may have that covered already.</p>
<p>Whistles. emergency whistles could help if you are walking to your car on campus you keep it in your mouth.... and students/authorities know it is a sign of someone in trouble. Might be a good investment....for us to get some carolina blue whistles and name them after Eve....hand them out to the students and faculty.</p>
<p>My sisters roommate in college knows the carsons and lives in Athens. She told her that the abductors/perpetrators got a lot of money out of her account and that she obviously gave them what they wanted. Her number. Still shot her. I guess so they could continue to empty it.</p>
<p>If the guy in the pictures is in a gang, what are the chances he is even in the state anymore? The fact they got the shooter out in California gives me some hope they will find this monster but I doubt he is hanging around the triangle area.</p>
<p>Atlmom: That's very sad. I was thinking that with most banks here, you can't withdraw more than $200 from a checking account, in a 24-hour period. If you have a money market account (maybe through a savings account, too) you can access more than that, but would have to go to different machines to do so-- which is probably what they were doing.</p>
<p>This is just so very sad. Eve lived her life so well and did all the right things-- even, it seems, when her life was threatened. Just really hard to wrap your head around something as tragic and senseless as this.</p>
<p>Thanks for your post above, too. I certainly hope that the UNC campus actually increases security on campus-- something like midnight to 6 am.</p>
<p>The news mentioned tonight that 2 robberies (one at gunpoint; the other at knifepoint) occurred on the NCSU campuses in the last week. Nobody was hurt, and the guys were caught-- but what is going on?</p>
<p>Janie, it is so scary and sad. It seems that it happens everywhere. Last year on Wake Forest's campus a student was car jacked at gun (or maybe it was knife) point in a campus parking lot. And that campus is locked and gated at night.</p>
<p>My kids think I'm paranoid and a little crazy for worrying so much---but when you watch the news......</p>
<p>Thanks for that info, janieblue, I had not heard that!</p>
<p>janieblue, if you have any more details or a link where I can read that please post, thanks</p>
<p>I got it on newsobserver. Thanks for the headsup, jb</p>
<p>There is also an article on newsobserver.com where they are backing off a little on the gang angle.</p>
<p>mkm56: Well, that's even more disturbing (about WF). I had this idea that if a campus was gated and locked, which is next to impossible on most campuses, that it would make a difference. I guess we need to go back to my first thought (which was a moat). </p>
<p>L. Fortissimo: I guess they haven't caught these guys, but the Centennial Campus of NCSU is not on the main campus, but houses textile and some other offices. Avent Ferry Rd is a big street-- not at all isolated-- edged with shopping centers, service stations, townhouses, apts for students, and Centennial Campus.
Police</a> Search for Robbers on N.C. State Campus :: WRAL.com</p>
<p>thanks so much for the info. are these incidents located in raleigh?</p>
<p>Yes, NCSU and its Centennial Campus are in Raleigh, about 25 miles from Chapel Hill. Raleigh is a fairly large city (the Capitol), unlike Chapel Hill. The NCSU main campus is located on the main street (Hillsborough) of downtown (sort of like UNC on Franklin), and the Centennial Campus is located just off this Avent Ferry Rd (which is more like a small highway, than a road) and is about a mile, by car/street, and less than that if you walk and cut through the main campus to get there.</p>
<p>So the Avent Ferry was at 9 pm with a knife and the other one was in broad daylight with a semiautomatic? Trying to get the two articles coordinated in my mind.</p>
<p>I thought the news of the recent event mentioned a hand-gun (not a semi-automatic-- or are they the same thing?!). The other event, where the person was caught, was at knife-point.</p>
<p>I saw the word semi-automatic in one article and I immediately imagine a huge machine gun; I don't know much about guns either, but these thugs evidently do. 8( God help us.</p>
<p>janie, does this seem like an escalation of campus-targeted crime for that area?</p>
<p>L. Fortissimo: Well, it seems that way to me-- this past week, especially. I think you always have small robberies at schools (where purses, ipods, laptops-- or whatever-- are left in unlocked rooms or left unattended in libraries, etc, and stolen), but this is the first really horrific crime and murder connected with Chapel Hill and the UNC campus in over a decade (really, since 1995). </p>
<p>And while no one lost his/her life in these latest crimes at NCSU, I have no recent memory of the news of anyone being held up at gunpoint or knife point there. So, yes, to my mind, this does seem like an escalation. It may be totally unrelated, and probably is, but with these NCSU crimes, the Burk murder, and Eve's murder-- all within a week of each other-- it does seem like more than random coincidence (to me). </p>
<p>Interestingly, they had another "gang" expert on the local news tonight. He seems to think that Eve's murder was "random" and not related to gang activity (though he would not state all the reasons why he believes that). So, his statement conflicts with last night's news and what this other "gang" expert said. </p>
<p>What they say to the media with regard to all that, I guess I also take with a grain of salt. I'm not sure how much they will actually state what they truly know and believe, at this point-- my best guess.</p>