<p>The average person does not go to college. Only about 1 out of every 4 people hold college degrees in America. </p>
<p>If the kid wants good academics and good sports UNC is the place to be. But Brown is better academically for undergrads. I am not trying to put UNC down in anyway! It is a very good school.</p>
<p>ill take your cue bluebayou
i think at this point its down to penn brown and UNC. i know that UNC is SO much better value when instate, but still OOS will only cost me the 56k total i mentioned before, which is significantly cheeper than ivys (120k). the financial situation, once again, is my gparents are fine financially, my parents have 3 more kids to put through college, but are accepting if i plan to attend a more expensive private university. i will put up another post later explaining another facet of my fathers tuition benefit for me, but i dont want to complicate the post.</p>
<p>I like Brown because a) i think i have a better chance with legacy, b) i lived in providence for a long time and love the city, c) like the intellectual climate, d) like the quirks, d) like the open curriculum, and e) like the liberal sway. i dislike it because a) $ and b) maybe since i lived near providence (20 minutes away) for 13 years i should experience a new part of the country?</p>
<p>I like Penn because a)even though it has the ivy league intellect, it still has a somewhat (dwarfed by UNC) school interest in athletics, b) i love philly, c) had a great visit there (feel, capmus, etc. more so than at other schools), d) know of their great academics (duh). I dislike it because a) $, b) do i want a place THAT urban? its a question to myself, because im unsure, and c) is the atmosphere too cut through if i plan on going premed (a lesser fear, i dont have too much disagreement with competition)</p>
<p>I like UNC because a) GREAT $, b) near par academics with ivys, c) sports/spirit, d) college campus. I dislike it because a) is it academic enough for me?, b) 82% north carolina, even though that may not be a detraction, c) size, and all that comes with it being a large public university</p>
<p>Also i am applying for the duke/unc robertson scholarship, which will ultimately make my decision for me. </p>
<p>But thats somewhat besides this post. My pros/cons are in no order, in on weighted preference. Hope this helps shape me for your suggestions. Feel free to direct questions at posts towards me and ill answer them, i check rather requently</p>
<p>my dear beignet -- whenever the brain says "in no particular order", the heart always jumps up to insist "that is exactly MY order!!"</p>
<p>... ok theres some order? maybe the first few are more important than the last few reasons? perhaps?</p>
<p>bump bump bump</p>
<p>beignet:</p>
<p>Let's take the Brown likes first, but ignoring legacy: b, c, d1, d2, & e all point against UNC.</p>
<p>Penn: a, b, c & d also all vote against UNC.</p>
<p>UNC: only one like (c) votes against Brown and Penn.</p>
<p>It seems to me that Brown wins handily for you at the same cost. Of course, if UNC is free under a Robertson....But, Duke beats them all with a Robertson bcos it has both the academic climate AND school spirit. But it loses points on quirky and liberal. (Note, in my opinion school spirit generally goes along with sports and greek systems. One great school without much school spirit nor greek & sports happens to be in your backyard.)</p>
<p>your advice is helpful blubayou, but idk if i can justify using each pro and con valued at one point... but its an interesting approach</p>
<p>i hate to do this but bump</p>
<p>Honestly, if you gained admission to Brown and UNC and chose, UNC, I think it would be a mistake.</p>
<p>I think that's absurd...</p>
<p>Go to Temple, eh? lol</p>
<p>Are you stalking me? And what's your point?</p>
<p>I saw your username, so just chill and get a tampon. Sheesh. You cant shoot the ball worth a dung anyway. I guess thats why you ended up @ Temple.</p>
<p>Rrrrrrriiiiiight....You are aware that Dionte's shooting percentages are almost identical to the leading scorer in the nation's--Stephen Curry's, right?</p>
<p>Brown
Dartmouth
Penn
UNC</p>
<p>You only get one shot at this and your peer group a the ivies is grossly superior. Peer group is what makes the college experience. Good luck.</p>
<p>doctorb -- you only get one shot at most things in life, so I don't see your point. A vastly superior peer group could be the worst thing possible for some applicants. Many improve under duress ... other eventually snap, or give up and (psychologically) withdraw. For example, in a "vastly superior peer group" where a student finds him/herself below the median -- this is a motivation for some, and a debilitator for others. </p>
<p>A person must find the environment that motivates them to reach just that much higher, push just that much harder, focus just that much more. For some, the big fish/small pond model is optimal. For others, small fish/big pond is optimal.</p>
<p>You have to know the person to know what kind of peer group will likely bring the best out of them.</p>
<p>I really don't see the difference between UNC and the rest of those schools...</p>
<p>That's why you ended up at Temple.</p>
<p>
Most people can find a circle of peers out of 17000 undergrads.</p>
<p>IBclass06,
If he doesn't know see the difference between UNC and schools in the Ivy League I am not just going to feel sorry for him. Also, I am not exactly sure where you stepped up and were appointed CC etiquette police. If I wanted a big brother, I'd go read 1984. Mind your own.</p>
<p>UNC is a great state school and should be one of the top places if you are looking for the large public experience, but the Ivy League is a better choice. That is not saying that UNC is by any means not a great choice, but the resources and contacts you will gain by being from the Ivy League seem to be incredibly valuable.</p>