Undergrad DOES matter for top med schools. Alot.

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<p>Oooh!Ooh! Email me a link if you have one.</p>

<p>Top Med School.
Does it matter if you are not going to be a researcher NO
Can you be a professor at Harvard without going to a “top medical school” YES</p>

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<p>So you state “medical school”. The answer then is emphatically NO. The examples you pulled (JHH, Harvard, etc) are “top” schools and it may matter if you are going into academic research.</p>

<p>mudge</p>

<p>let me see what I can find out from him…no link that I can see anywhere…he said he just learned about it…I’ll get back to you.</p>

<p>although I could give hundreds of such examples, here is one. A personal friend of mine, same specialty. He went to a little known college, a state medical school and did his residency in the military. Didn’t hurt his career one bit:
[Anthony</a> Amato | Profiles | Harvard Catalyst](<a href=“http://connects.catalyst.harvard.edu/PROFILES/ProfileDetails.aspx?Person=AAA7]Anthony”>Anthony Amato | Harvard Catalyst Profiles | Harvard Catalyst)</p>

<p>eadad,</p>

<p>Do let us know what the program is called. I would be interested as well.</p>

<p>Thanks much for the info.</p>

<p>OP,</p>

<p>What I have heard in my State school’s SDN blog is that most students actually prefer the state school because it gets a lot of patients from surrounding low socioeconomic strata consisting of patients who have no insurance or little coverage. SDN students mention that they get a lot more hands on clinical expertise at the state school in this patient population.</p>

<p>While elite schools get more wealthier patients who are seeking “top name”. The wealthy patients do not like students prodding around them. Therefore, if you are interested in Clinical work, you are far more likely to get hands-on experience at a state school while at elite, you get less hands-on and more watching/peripheral experience.</p>

<p>Elite schools are great if you are interested in MD, PhD though.</p>

<p>Pharmagal, what I’m seeing is that a number of private schools have relationships with public or charity hospitals that give the students access to the variety of cases they would find appealing. Other schools? Not so much. And they get dinged for it on sdn, too. One of the factors weighing heavily on my D’s mind is the quality of those hospital experiences MS3 and MS4. In fact, it may be a major factor in eliminating a couple of schools she really likes.</p>

<p>I don’t know…from my vantage point most medical students get plenty of hands on. Basically, med students are lackeys serving the whim of staff.</p>

<p>Many of the top medical schools have affiliated hospitals located in “bad” areas (Penn, JHU, Columbia P&S, etc.). In order to keep their federal funding, they have to take Medicare, medicaid, uninsured, etc. so you’ll be getting to work with that kind of patient population if you so desire.</p>

<p>I have to say that debrockman is right in a way. Sometimes getting to do everything isn’t a good thing. What you want is the OPPORTUNITY to do everything. Master blood drawing, but don’t do it if you don’t want to and be able to count on it getting done in a reasonable time by the appropriate staff. Things like that.</p>

<p>UTSW has Parkland as one of its hospitals. Not only does it have both the leading trauma and burn centers in the Southwest but it also is second in the world (to a hospital in India) in the number of babies born there each year. Last year it was over 19,000! </p>

<p>MS3s doing their OB rotation often deliver more babies than some OB Residents at other hospitals. Many applicants select UTSW over other schools BECAUSE of the Parkland experience. I’ve heard that the Friday night “gun and knife club” scene in the ER is something to behold for those doing their emergency medicine and surgery rotations. ;)</p>

<p>UTSW also counts as a top school in my book though.</p>

<p>Mine too…</p>

<p>UTSW has Parkland, Baylor has Ben Taub, Yale has Yale-New Haven, Pitt has (their great hospital system whose name escapes me right now). That’s (one reason) why those schools are so high on my D’s keeper list and one reason two favorites (Dartmouth and UVa) are sliding a bit. She needs to get more comfortable with their rotations.</p>

<p>Hey, sorry for coming into this conversation so randomly but, i was wondering if anyone could give me any guidance towards top medical schools accepting students who attend colleges that aren’t well known.</p>

<p>I attend Hoftstra University in New York. I am in my 3rd year and a double major in Psychology and Classics. I am also minoring in Biology, Chemistry and Film Studies. I have a 3.93 GPA and a 3.79 Science GPA(Calculus 2 screwed me over with a B)</p>

<p>My MCAT scores were:
BS: 13
VR: 11
PS: 12</p>

<p>President of my college’s Film club and Psychology Club. </p>

<p>Have done 2 Research Internships over the summer: one for Neuroscience and the other for Pediatrics. (Sophomore year and this year)</p>

<p>have studied abroad 2 times: Once in a semester(currently in) and once over the summer(Freshman year)</p>

<p>I am in a bunch of Honor Societies. </p>

<p>Jazz and Chamber Ensemble for 4 years and i play the Clarinet/Saxophone.</p>

<p>Ballroom Dancing: Instructors Assistant</p>

<p>Hofstra Pride: Play the Snare Drums for the pep band.</p>

<p>Intramural Basketball and Tennis for all 4 years.</p>

<p>I am Muslim(Albanian) and could speak 5 languages(English, Albanian, Serbian, Spanish, Ancient Greek) I was told this was an important factor. </p>

<p>I want to apply to the following Med Schools:
Harvard
Cornell/Columbia
Johns Hopkins
Duke
UCLA
U of Chicago
NYU
U of Washington
and a bunch of safeties</p>

<p>Can i get into Top Medical Schools even though i don’t go to such a “top” undergrad school?</p>

<p>D. will appreciate acceptance to ANY Medical school. Believe it or not, her most important criteria is being close enough to home to be able to drive and preferably non-urban location. So her choice is limited by 6 hour drive, which gives her plenty of choices to apply.
I am trying to point out that there are other factors that affect choices than straightforward ranking. D’s pre-med advisor had advised her to apply to JHU and Columbia based on her stats so far (has not taken MCAT yet). As much as D. appreciates all advice, she is not planning to apply to schools that do not meet her own criteria (JHU, Columbia are not on her short list). She might end up not applying at all, but staying in her current program which includes state Medical School.</p>

<p>Miami…of course the premed advisor is not paying the bill :)</p>

<p>Legend: Yes you definitely have a shot. However, do not shoot yourself in the foot by not applying to less competitive schools too. Many an applicant has had to reapply because they didn’t do so. Also, unless you are in state or one of the affiliate states of Washington don’t apply to UW, they won’t accept you.</p>

<p>Legend</p>

<p>Following up on what mmmcdowe has said, your list contains many of the most highly selective schools in the US and then you mention safeties but don’t name them. I don’t honestly think that there is such a thing as a “safety” for Med school admissions because in many cases if your profile (MCAT/GPA) is too far above the norm for some less selective schools they may not even offer you an interview.</p>

<p>You need to apply to any and all state schools in the state in which you reside and then pick some schools that are in the top 15-40 range as well which you might view as “matches” rather than safeties. To select these schools determine where your profile corresponds to their most recent entering classes’ profile. You might consider them a “safety” but Med school admissions is a really inexact science and unlike undergrad admission, no school should be considered a true “safety.”</p>

<p>I am assuming that you are a US citizen? If not, admission to US med schools is very difficult to impossible for non-citizens these days which is NOT the case for undergrad admissions.</p>

<p>Legend – don’t hijack threads. Start your own.</p>