Unfair Chances!!!!!

<p>White people have a high chance of getting into any college...why?
Becuase the SAT has Verbal and Writing. White people are usually better in these sections compared to any other minority group becuase they are more familar with the english language. I think that sucks!</p>

<p><strong><em>yawwwwnnnnn</em></strong></p>

<p>just because white people perform better on verbal and writing, doesn't mean the test favors them; it just means that they, as a demographic, perform better on that section than other groups.</p>

<p>why hasn't anyone complained that the math section was made for asians? clearly they perform higher than other demographics on the math section. is that fair?</p>

<p>Isn't it the middle class Asian girls scoring the highest?</p>

<p>And if it's that bad, just take the ACT.</p>

<p>excel: quit being racist. i am white and i suck at reading and writing, but very good at math.</p>

<p>he's not really being a racist, i agree with excel when he said that the test favors people of non-asian ethnicity, since it is 2/3 liberal arts based now instead of the previous 1/2 eng. and 1/2 math.</p>

<p>I don't know why I am posting, but here goes. If it were even true that "white" people have an advantage on tests, excel, it is balanced out by the whole URM thing. Also, I think it is reasonable for to expect people who want to go to school here to be familiar with the English language. Americans studying abroad don't get any breaks because they are studing in a language foreign to them.</p>

<p>someone ban this guy</p>

<p>lol at anyone that takes this kid seriously</p>

<p>most of the highest scoring individuals in all sections are Asians. It is only mean or median scores that tend to show the Caucasians do better. Just a thought.</p>

<p>This is an American test made for admission to American schools, and these schools basically TOLD CollegeBoard that writing needed to be on the test because, well, you have to write in college <em>duh</em>. Any minority group (or Caucasians, for that matter) needs to get over whatever bias they think the test might have - this test was formulated correctly for what it is used for; people just have to find some way to complain.</p>

<p>Well why the heck do you think that affirmative action began??? It's all BS. Either way the white man loses. Just because we are white means nothing! If you were born in this country, as I was, we should all be treated equally which means that you should get off of CC, stop complaining, spend $15 on an SAT, and STUDYY!!!! But NO! Why would you study when you can complain. And don't tell me you can't afford $15 for an SAT book. Because that's all I did was study from an SAT book which means no $1000 tutors, no online course, no nothing!</p>

<p>Excel,
Stop complaining and act like your name: excel in the verbal and writing sections by studying for them. I've seen immigrants from nonEnglish speaking countries who managed to get 700 or higher on the verbal part of the SAT by taking rigorous courses and studying for the test.</p>

<p>My husband and I are African American and we and our sons did excellently on the verbal parts of the SAT. Both of my sons scored 750 or higher on the SAT I verbal. All of us are avid readers, took rigorous courses and studied for the test instead of regarding it as a crap shoot. I suggest that you do the same and stop whining about so-called racism.</p>

<p>As for the statement that it is 2/3 based in the humanities...that won't be in effect for a while, until the Writing score gets credibility. Right now, many colleges are discarding it and most aren't regarding on the same level as the Critical Reading and Math sections.</p>

<p>It's not unfair at all. Everyone who goes to school in America has a chance to learn the English language. What IS unfair, however, is the difference in funding for various school. E.g. students from poorer schools tend to do worse simply because the education can't compare to that of wealthier schools. Not to be racist but I know plenty of white people who can't speak their own language, and plenty of non-whites (including myself) who can communicate very effectively. I think the most unfair part of the SAT has to do with class and economic situation (ability to pay those expensive tutors, etc.) even though it is very much possible to teach yourself to do well on the SAT (albeit, more difficult). Life's not fair: Deal with it.</p>

<p>As the French say, c'est la vie. </p>

<p>Look, in life, you're going to encounter things that you might view as "unfair." You have two choices: a) You sit, and moan and groan about how unfair it is, or b) You accept it, and find a way to make the best of it (ie. in this case, work harder). As you're going to discover, there are things you can control, and there are things beyond your control. Do whatever you can to change the things that you can control, and just hope for the best with the things you can't.</p>

<p>Stop making excuses for your shortcomings!</p>

<p>One could make a case that the fact that the quality of your school system is largely dependent on your economic situation (i.e. living in a richer town or attending a private school) but the SAT can be practiced by anyone, and differences in school quality can be made up for in studying (at least for the SAT).</p>

<p>I know of lots of people who ARE NOT white or Asian that scored quite well (even to CC standards). </p>

<p>Stop with the whining. It'll get you nowhere, and it won't gain you favor.</p>

<p>If blacks, hispanics, and native americans were raised in a better environment (better schools, more incentive to learn), then white people would be whining, "the blacks are beating us! wahhhh!"</p>

<p>It's all relative. Too bad we all cannot learn on the same level.</p>

<p>Quit making excuses. Very few people are natural test takers as it is and your skin color has very little to do with it. I'm sure that a very well educated African-American would do much better on the SAT than a Caucasian who had never been to school.</p>

<p>We've already got affirmative action... isn't that enough to compensate?</p>