<p>Hello. I am currently looking into this university for Aviation Management. I honestly don't know much about North Dakota, and from what I've been reading here it seems like it is not 'that great of a school' because its a 'farm state'? I was looking at their website and it seems like they got good ratings. I just wanted to see if anyone here had any sort of input. Thanks.</p>
<p>Every school has some good departments. Often in surprising areas. For example, the University of Pittsburgh, while only a half-decent school (#58 in the country,) has, I believe the second or possibly the best philosophy department in America. Don't go by whole rankings. Check out ratings for the department you're interested in. That's a lot more relevant.</p>
<p>i disagree, for undergrad the overall quality of the school is more important. youre really not investing enough time in a department for it to supercede the overall quality of the undergrad</p>
<p>If this guy plans on going into a career concerning aviation management, I'd say that the quality of the education he's receiving is a lot more important than the prestige of the institution.</p>
<p>north dakota is usually considered a very unpopular state. i think it is one of the few, if not the only, states in the u.s. whose population is decreasing instead of increasing.
however, aviation management is a very specific major and i cant imagine that many schools offer it, at least not for undergrad. (i'm a women's studies major though, so what do i know?) since it's so specialized, und will probably give you a very good education. is there any way you could talk to someone who's actually in that field and figure out what the perspectives are on that school? who knows, maybe und is the harvard of aviation management.</p>
<p>you need to do some research scarfmadness, a lot more states are loosing their population. I dont have time know, but i will come back and post which states are loosing. </p>
<p>Either way, UND is a great school, and people have to realize that this schools recieve less respect than they deserve mainly becuase of their less desirable location</p>
<p><a href="http://www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/censr-8.pdf%5B/url%5D">www.census.gov/prod/2003pubs/censr-8.pdf</a>
that website includes a chart displaying the net migration of all 50 states between 1995 and 2000. i was surprised to see that hawaii had the highest rate of migration (people leaving), but north dakota has the 4th highest rate. these statistics are a bit old but give a general idea. i was wrong about there being only "a few" states losing people, but i was right about ND being up there.</p>
<p>while it seems about half the states experienced a decline in population, it is an especially big problem in north dakota, so much so that wikipedia devotes a whole section to it, which it doesnt do for other states. that doesnt mean und isn't a great school, it just means there wont be that many out-of-state students, and it might be especially difficult to find jobs after graduation. i dont know how competitive aviation management is, though.</p>
<p>oops i didnt realize we were discussing aviation...i saw the pitt comment and i jumped all over that</p>
<p>I know someone who's going to North Dakota State U from my school, which seemed odd to me (we live in TX!), so obviously ND has some appeal. Perhaps you might want to look at schools near major airlines and airplane manufacturers because of internship and networking opportunities. For example, U of Houston has a business program (but not sure about Aviation Mgmt) and Continental is headquartered in Houston. Lockheed Martin is in Atlanta (I think), so you might want to check out schools there.</p>
<p>Ah, thanks for yalls input. Truly do appreciate it. I'll do more research. It's tough to find a lot of universities with aviation programs. Houston does not have one unfortuantely. There are two colleges in Texas which do, and it does not seem worthy enough IMO.</p>
<p>How about Embry-Riddle?</p>
<p>UND is probably the 2nd best aviation school in the country behind Embry-Riddle.</p>
<p>If you ever are on campus, all the out-of-staters are usually Aviation. It's definitely the highpoint of the University. (besides hockey)</p>
<p>It's EXTREMELY hard to get into though, so if you do apply, good luck :)</p>
<p>If you have any questions, I might be able to get you some information. I live in North Dakota.</p>
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<p>I have to disagree here. I went to UND for an aviation camp and met with an admissions rep; basically they said that anyone who applies with a GPA better than 2.5 and a good ACT score is automatically admitted.</p>
<p>aurovon,</p>
<p>I am also considering UND. What are your career aspirations? If you want to be a pilot like me then UND would make a great choice. Other schools to look at that have flying programs are Purdue, University of Illinios, Western Michigan University, and Westminster college.</p>
<p>I would not recommend ERAU for a pilot career basically because it gives you nothing to fall back on. Going to a normal university you can probably double major (ie major in something non-aviation related in addition to your aviation major). Basically this will give you a good backup plan as the airline industry is not generally in a hiring position right now. </p>
<p>Let me know if you have any other questions, and good luck in your search.</p>
<p>I'm from North Dakota. I honestly wouldn't recommend coming here, even if UND is strong in what you want to study.</p>
<p>To be frank, North Dakota is a cold, barren, boring wasteland of a state. I can say this because I've lived here for 18 years. Yesterday, it was -42 degrees with windchill.</p>
<p>UND is a great school for aviation, and you'll get to know lots of other people with that interest there, it seems thats what half the school is going into. Grand Forks is very much a college town, with the university and air force bases being the main employers there. Its also a big party school with a fair amount of Greek activity and a strong devotion to hockey and football.</p>
<p>I go to NDSU. I love the cold weather, it keeps wimps who cant stand it away from our state.</p>
<p>I believe that Emory is also a great school in regards to aviation engineering and stuff like that.</p>
<p>Western Michigan University has a really good aviation dept. They have the largest in the US</p>
<p>This link should help you - it is the list of schools accredited for aviation education by the Council on Aviation Accreditation. There are a lot of great accredited schools out there, including Arizona State, Purdue, Auburn, Bowling Green, and the University of Illinios-Urbana Chicago (UND too!). I'd try to stick to or at least start with accredited programs as that indicates they are run according to industry standards which will make job hunting easier after graduation:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wmich.edu/aviation/%5B/url%5D">http://www.wmich.edu/aviation/</a></p>
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<p>Somehow I find that hard to believe...</p>
<p>WMich has about 30 or so aircraft, while UND has closer to 100.</p>