Unit Cap Question

<p>I have always thought that once you are enrolled in a california community college you cant max out on units. However, I was recently told by a counselor that because I have attended a 4 year university for two years, and am now transferring to a city college (with the hopes of transferring to a UC for fall 2010) I CAN max out on units because I attended a 4 year institution. Is this true?</p>

<p>Yes, this is true.</p>

<p>If you had only attended a CC then you could have taken as many units as your heart desired before you transferred, but since you have credit from a 4 year you can max out on units, so be careful. I’m not sure what the cap is, but I would find out asap and plan your classes accordingly.</p>

<p>yes its because you have units from a 4 year university</p>

<p>I think that the cap is different from school to school. I am pretty sure that I have seen this kind of question in this thread before and the Cap is around 90units, which are the units you take in the 4 years university.</p>

<p>What are the unit limitations or restrictions on admission for students who have attended a four-year institution before enrolling at a California community college? Do any majors or schools on your campus interpret this policy differently?</p>

<p>UCB: Each of the individual colleges and the Haas School of Business establishes its own unit limitation policies for students who have attended a four-year institution before enrolling at a community college:
College of Letters and Science: A student who has accumulated more than 80 transferable semester units from a four-year institution is considered to have excess units and will not be admitted. A student who has completed 80 or fewer UC-transferable semester units at a four-year university and then transfers to a community college will not accrue excess units and will be considered for admission.
Students who have only attended a community college will be granted subject credit, but not unit credit, for appropriate two-year college coursework taken in excess of the community college 70-unit limit; such subject credit may be used to satisfy/complete requirements.
College of Environmental Design: This college follows the same unit accumulation policy as the College of Letters and Science (see above), except that its limit on transferable coursework taken at a four-year university is 86 semester units.
Other colleges: UC Berkeley’s other colleges total both university units and a maximum of 70 community college UC-transferable units. The limits on combined transferable university and community college work are as follows:
• College of Chemistry: 80 semester units; applicants with more than 80 units require special approval.
• College of Engineering: 89 semester units.
• College of Natural Resources: 90 semester units. Though the College does not have a specific unit limitation, it carefully reviews applicants with 90 or more
10
semester units to ensure that they can graduate within a reasonable time.
• Haas School of Business: No maximum limit.</p>

<p>UCD: Applications from students who have completed 80 or more transferable semester units (120 or more transferable quarter units) of combined baccalaureate institution and community college coursework are subject to review by the deans of the College of Agricultural and Environmental Sciences, the College of Letters and Science and the College of Biological Sciences. Units earned through AP or IB examinations are counted separately for this purpose; AP and IB units do not put applicants at risk of being denied admission or of having an admissions decision delayed due to a dean’s review. Applicants subject to review will be admitted if a dean’s assessment is that the student is making good progress toward the baccalaureate degree and can complete the degree within the college’s maximum unit limit. All transfer applications to the College of Engineering undergo careful screening to assess the level of academic preparation for the major; the College of Engineering does not conduct a separate review of applicants who have 80 or more transferable semester units (120 or more transferable quarter units) of combined baccalaureate institution/community college work. Students who are well prepared for the majors will be admitted to the College of Engineering even if they exceed the 80/120-unit standard.</p>

<p>UCI: UC Irvine does not set a limit on the number of units an applicant may earn at a four-year institution before enrolling at a community college. It is important to note, however, that at least 36 of the final 45 quarter completed by a student for the bachelor’s degree must be earned in residence at the UCI campus.</p>

<p>UCLA: With the exception of the School of Nursing (postlicensure), UCLA generally considers a student who has accumulated more than 86 transferable semester units (130 transferable quarter units) at a university to have exceeded maximum units allowable for admission. Such a student will not be admitted. For the College of Letters and Science, a student who completed 86 or fewer UC-transferable semester units (130 or fewer transferable quarter units) at a university then transferred to, and remained exclusively at, a community college does not exceed the maximum units allowable for admission purposes.</p>

<p>UCM: A student who has accumulated more than 80 transferable semester units from a four-year institution is considered to have excess units and will not be admitted. A student who has completed 80 or fewer UC-transferable semester units at a four-year university and then transfers to a community college will not accrue excess units and will be considered for admission.
Students who have only attended a community college will be granted subject credit, but not unit credit, for appropriate two-year college coursework taken in excess of the community college 70-unit limit; such subject credit may be used to satisfy/complete requirements.</p>

<p>UCR: UC Riverside does not limit the number of units an applicant may earn at a four-year institution before enrolling at a community college. However, UC-eligible applicants who have attended a four-year institution and who present 80 or more semester (120 or more quarter) units in transfer credit will be reviewed by the dean of the college for completion of a specified pattern of courses that provides continuity with upper-division courses within the major. An applicant will be admitted if the dean’s office determines that the student can complete a baccalaureate degree within the maximum limit of 216 quarter units.</p>

<p>UCSD: UC San Diego considers a student with more than 90 transferable semester units (135 quarter units) from the combination of a two-year and a four-year institution to be in senior standing. UCSD sets a 90 semester unit limit when a student has attended both a two-year and a four-year institution. UCSD will transfer a maximum of 70 semester units from a community college; the admissions staff looks for those students who have accumulated 90 or fewer semester units.</p>

<p>UCSB: The College of Letters and Science does not accept applications from students who have earned 135 or more transferable quarter (90 or more semester) units from a combination of two-year and four-year institutions.</p>

<p>UCSC: UC Santa Cruz does not accept applications from students who have earned 135 or more transferable quarter (90 or more semester) units from a four-year institution or a combination of two-year and four-year institutions. This campuswide policy is not subject to college or departmental interpretation.</p>

<p>does the cap include AP units too</p>

<p>yeah, does it include ap units? Cause with ap units, I have 129 quarter units, which is baaarely under ucla’s cap</p>

<p>I thought that as long as you were full time at the CCC, you couldn’t max out. Several people on this board have reported applying way past the unit cap from a CCC after being at a 4 year. This is especially true of people who go to a 4 year, drop, completely change majors, and subsequently go over the unit cap at the CCC getting their new prereqs and IGETC before they transfer.</p>

<p>Also, I know someone who was told by a UCB rep that he could go to a CCC and then transfer even though he already graduated from a 4 year (with a technical degree, so he didn’t do any GE type stuff). </p>

<p>I know this unit cap is confusing. This is what I gather from all that I’ve heard: the unit cap is intended to weed out transfers that just want a UCB degree (ie transfer senior year), or people well into their degree at their university and really want to transfer as the same major to UC(whatever) for a more legitimate reason (like living issues or preferring that program), but will inevitably have to postpone graduation to complete their new major and campus requirements. In the first situation, they’re trying to weed out the people trying to “cheat the system,” and in the second, they’re genuinely looking out for the student’s interest- because the student will most likely not do well having to almost redo their degree. So in regards to the unit cap, I don’t think that your app will just bounce because of your units. I think that all apps are viewed holistically, and when the reviewer sees your units, they’ll ask themselves, “why does this person want to transfer? Is that a good idea?” instead of automatically rejecting you.</p>

<p>I will have like 145 quarter units, 90 transferable, come transfer time for UCLA and UCB. I assume this is fine, correct? I used to think units don’t max out but some people are saying otherwise. I am a CCC student.</p>

<p>I think unit cap is only for UC students (and maybe from other 4 year universities too) but not CCC students. Double check though.</p>

<p>And also I called berkeley today and asked if the AP units are included in the cap. First she said no it doesn’t. But then I said cause my AP units are used to satisfy the core requirements for my major, and she was like “oh then I’m not sure. You should call back to check when you fill out your application next year” -_-</p>

<p>I’m so confused. DOes anyone have a sure answer to this?</p>

<p>There is no sure answer. Basically, reread what I posted. I’ve talked to several UCB reps and seen seriously all there is to see for their policies. All of their definitive answers conflict, and the rest of them are super vague which leads me to believe that there is no cap unless you’re coming straight from a 4 year. Also, they will cut you off after 70 so you shouldn’t acquire excess units just for the sake of it.</p>

<p>oh I"m a UC student though. Do you know if AP units are included in the unit cap for UC student?</p>

<p>is there a way to check which units are considered transferable?</p>