University of California releases Fall 2010 application statistics

<p>[Fall</a> 2010 application tables](<a href=“http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2010/10app.html]Fall”>http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2010/10app.html)</p>

<p>Interesting… thanks for the info rc251!</p>

<p>Very very good info</p>

<p>I find the most interest information table number 5. Though UCLA gets the most applicants from California high school seniors, Berkeley is way down the list, after UCSB, Irvine, UCSD, and Davis, in that order. Apparently International and OOS students bump up UCBerkeley to make it the second most applied to campus. (And yes, overall, UCLA with over 57K applicants, wow.)</p>

<p>It’s no surprise that the largest Ethnicity applying to UCs is Asian American, followed by White, but it is surprising how close behind Latino/Chicano students are. Over 20K applied to UCs.</p>

<p>As for that number one block of students, the most popular US campus for Asian Americans to apply to is Irvine, followed by UCSD, then UCLA, then way down the list Davis, and then Berkeley.</p>

<p>This is very interesting, thanks for posting.</p>

<p>Table 10 starts off with the mean number of A-G courses, which ranges from 45 to 47 semester units. I’ve never understood how this number could be so high: four years of high school = 8 semesters. Our (enormous) school district offers 6 periods a day, which means a student will have 48 semester units at graduation, including Phys Ed, Life Skills, Computer Technology and other requirements that aren’t part of the A-G requirements. How is it possible that the mean number of A-G courses is so high? Are there many districts in CA that offer 7 or 8 periods a day? Are out of state applications driving up the number of courses? Are many students taking supplemental courses at community colleges, outside language schools, and the like? Or is my math or assumptions just off somewhere?</p>

<p>don’t forget, “mean” courses also includes those taken in middle school, such as Alg/Geom and/or foreign language, as well as summer programs.</p>

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<p>Surprisingly, yes.</p>

<p>By the way, I did an analysis of how UCSB’s admission would be affected by these numbers:</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-california-santa-barbara/849288-admission-may-significantly-more-difficult-fall-10-freshmen.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-california-santa-barbara/849288-admission-may-significantly-more-difficult-fall-10-freshmen.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Once the individual UCs release target enrollment figures (AFAIK only UCSB and UCSC have done this so far), you can begin to estimate the acceptance rate by looking at historic yield figures.</p>

<p>bluebayou, it’s still making me scratch my head. Take Merced and Riverside, which have a mean of just under 45 A-G semester courses. These are campuses with huge numbers of first gen kids, huge numbers of kids applying from schools with low API scores, huge numbers of low income kids. It’s hard for me to reconcile that picture with a group of kids who took Algebra (let alone Geometry) and foreign language courses in middle school. Even harder to imagine large numbers of this cohort taking part in summer programs that offer academic credit.</p>

<p>Our high school offers 7 periods a day and my friend’s high school offers 8 periods a day. But I don’t know anyone that take the max all 4 years.</p>

<p>My school too requires that we have seven periods for 9th, 10th, and 11th grade as a part of being in our school’s accelerated academic program.</p>

<p>But it looks like the main increase in applicants to UCSB is in transfer students and to the UC’s in general. I guess that means they would take fewer freshman too if they take more transfers!</p>

<p>ST:</p>

<p>I don’t believe anything Merced publishes since they accept any 18 year old with B average. The only requirement is a pulse!</p>

<p>But, yeah, the numbers for UCR are a real surprise.</p>

<p>UCs will start using waiting lists starting this year:</p>

<p>[U&lt;/a&gt;. of California to use applicant waiting lists - Sacramento News - Local and Breaking Sacramento News | Sacramento Bee](<a href=“http://www.sacbee.com/state_wire/story/2477076.html]U”>http://www.sacbee.com/state_wire/story/2477076.html)</p>

<p>But it looks like the main increase in applicants to UCSB is in transfer students and to the UC’s in general. I guess that means they would take fewer freshman too if they take more transfers!</p>

<p>The problem is that they overenrolled last year and have to underenroll this year to correct the problem. Here’s an LA Times article on overcrowding this year for freshman at UCSB:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-classes20-2010jan20,0,4770272.story[/url]”>http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-classes20-2010jan20,0,4770272.story&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>^What is the significance of the introduction of a waiting list? Is that a good thing or a bad thing? =/</p>

<p>I think it’s a bad thing for those in the borderline area. Before the UCs and CSUs would just overenroll, like over-booking a plane. A lot of students wouldn’t accept because they’d get into colleges they wanted more and go there instead. But last year between the private schools not giving enough financial aid and the economic crisis leading more students to choose their local UC to live at home and save money, more students accepted than the colleges planned for, and a lot of UC campuses ended up overcrowded. So this year evidently they’ll put more of the applicants at the bottom of the pile (ones that previously would have been straight ‘accepts’) and make them waitlist instead, and wait to find out exactly how many send in their SRI’s before giving the waitlist folks a spot.</p>

<p>* ^What is the significance of the introduction of a waiting list? Is that a good thing or a bad thing? =/ *</p>

<p>I think the idea is that schools want to control enrollment numbers to a greater effect. They will probably aim to slightly underenroll, and if they end up getting their target, then they’re good. If not, they’ll add students from the waiting list. I think horserock is right, borderline students will probably still get in somewhere but will have the added stress and uncertainty of being on a waiting list.</p>

<p>Question: What is the significance of the introduction of a waiting list? </p>

<p>Answer: “Our main priority is to put dollars back into the classroom to directly benefit the students,”</p>

<p>Which comes from here: [University</a> of California - UC Newsroom | UC to cut fewer freshmen from fall 2010 enrollment](<a href=“http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/article/22703]University”>http://www.universityofcalifornia.edu/news/article/22703)</p>

<p>To get the complete answer to the question look for the money angle - possibly here:</p>

<p>[Colleges</a> Favoring The Wealthy](<a href=“http://www.citytowninfo.com/career-and-education-news/articles/colleges-favoring-the-wealthy-10011102]Colleges”>Colleges Favoring The Wealthy)</p>

<p>In other words, put those needing financial aid on hold until out-of-state or out of country mega-payers have made a commitment. </p>

<p>Notice here: <a href=“http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2010/10apptable1_2.pdf[/url]”>http://www.ucop.edu/news/factsheets/2010/10apptable1_2.pdf&lt;/a&gt; The great increase in out-of-country applications. A nice source of revenue if the rulers at UCOP can get it.</p>

<p>Also you have to take into account that there are going to be more students who, even though they were accepted to a UC, are not going to end up going because of the huge (and growing!) tuition hikes. This way they keep students, like OOS’ers willing to pay full cost without fin. aid, as a back up. But what confuses me is the SAT score reports. Since when did Berkeley have an 1850 average on the SAT?</p>

<p>Applicant averages, not admitted or attending averages.</p>

<p>i cant believe over 100k applicants</p>