@kaarboeer, I agree that this is probably one of the least important form any university would need to fill out and certainly Columbia has similar thoughts and never seems to care to report the data either, but somehow I never saw anybody would go to the Columbia forum and make a big deal out of it every so often for many years.
@xiggi We know those metrics. 12k apps, 10.5% accepted. Total apps 30k. Do we need to be more precise than that? It seems to me anything else is just needlessly specific.
@theluckystar I seem to recall that happening last year with someone else. They don’t get criticized as often for that as for ignoring GS students, though.
For the record, the criticism of the schools that feel above releasing their CDS is very old news on CC. There is still a running thread about it, and the tone has never changed much. Well, except that more schools have seen the light.
As far as posting direct messages on the school fora, you might consider that few schools have had a designated rep who is actively suggesting to be … a source of information. Hence, the more direct comments!
As far as “knowing” the metrics, I’d have to disagree. What has been shared is the information reported by Phuriku (sp?) and that does not amount to an official statement via the school officials. In the past, what we “knew” could be found on The Maroon news. Even if the numbers were early or speculative, that is of a much taller order than what is represented as being news shared to interviewers.
Regardless of any of the above, what remains is that the absence of timely numbers represents a poor practice. There are plenty of schools who do believe that describing their most recent application process is worthy of a press release.
“More than 30k hopefuls are applying to Chicago this year.”
I wonder how Bloomberg knew that.
It would not be out of a question that Janet Lorin just placed a call to the admission office of UChicago and asked for the approximate number of total applications for the Class of 2019. I suspect that Chicago simply gave it to her.
The following are some of the admission numbers for Class of 2019 directly from admissions:
11% EA admit rate
Average SAT of admitted student in EA on 1600 scale, excluding writing, 1550.
Average ACT of admitted student in EA of 34.
Total overall applications EA plus RD of over 30,000.
I have no breakdown on how many EA or ED applicants, or how many EA were admitted.
When the numbers officially come out, they will match my information.
That sounds more accurate than what I posted, thanks!
No problem.
I am a deferred student and UChicago is my dream school.
So am I right in inferring these numbers below or am I skewing it because I want to tell myself I still have a shot at it in the regular round:
Based on previous posts,
Total applications approx. 30,000
EA applications approx. 12,000
RD applications approx 18,000
EA admits 11% so approx. 1320 students
EA Rejects ?
EA Defered?
In the forum- UChicago EA Applicants 2019 - Cue7 on post #1938 on 12/17/2014 gives the following link and says
http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2014/01/24/early-programs-not-created-equal/
“As seen in that informative article (under the heading “Not All Deferrals Created Equal”), last year, Princeton rejected 1.3% (1.3%!) of early applicants, and deferred about 80% of early applicants. Harvard rejected 7.8% of applicants, and deferred about 70% of applicants.”
In addition based on the high number of deferals at UChicago in CC I assume the following worst case scenario:
EA Rejections are 1% so approx. 120 students
Therfore EA Deferred are 88% so approx. 10560 students
In the forum- Questions? Ask an admissions counselor! - UChicago says in post # 2302 on 12/22/2014
“Traditionally we have admitted about 10% of our deferred students; we don’t have a strict quota or set requirement for the percent of deferred students we must or will admit, but around 10% of our deferred students are usually accepted.”
So does that mean approx. 10% of 10560 students = 1056 are admitted?
Also assuming 10% admit rate for the entire 30,000 students – that would be a total of about 3000 students admitted overall.
So regular decision students are only 3000 - (1320EA admits +1056 EA deferred admits)= 624 students?
That would mean about 624 students out of a pool of 18000 RD students – this is about 3.46% admit rate for RD!
Am I correct or woefully wrong?
No idea how many actually deferred and therefore 10% of an unknown number is ???
You are likely high on estimate of admitting 10% of 30,000. Total admits more likely around 2700 with the class at around 1300. And, admit rate more likely 8% than 10% of 30,000 plus. Last year’s yield rate of 60% translates to admissions office being very careful on the number admitted so it may not be as many as 2700. Just my opinion.
I think someone earlier in this thread predicted around 7.5% acceptance rate, or 2250 total admits (which, if you consider yield rate, leads to 1350 students, or the approximate ideal class size).
@kaarboer, I’m guessing that UChicago will want to admit just south of 7.5% so it rounds to 7%.
@bradybest Which would also correct for any upwards climb in yield.
Chicago accepted a total of 2,304 students (with 1,350 accepted EA) for the Class of 2018 with a little higher than 60% yield. For Class of 2019 EA, Chicago accepted between 1,200 and 1,250 applicants based on unofficial source. With all the sources pointing in the direction of having more than 30,000 in total applications this year, which is roughly 10% higher than that of last year, chances are good that Chicago is not going to accept the same total amount of applicants (2,304) as last year.
In fact, if you compare the EA acceptance numbers of Class of 2018 and 2019, you could see Chicago admitted 10% fewer applicants in the EA round. It’s only logical to think they would admit 10% fewer in the regular round, thereby 10% fewer in total acceptance. That means they would admit roughly 2,100 in total.
Let’s say, the total applications is ~30,250 (10% higher than 27,499 total apps of last year) and that would give us the total admit rate of approximately 6.9%=(2,100 / 30,250)
If the yield goes slightly upward by 4 percentage point (~64%), we would have 1,344=(2,100 x 64%) matriculated freshman for the Class of 2019 and should not present any housing constraint issue to the administration.
In conclusion, a roughly 7% total acceptance rate for the Class of 2019 is totally perceivable to me.
Hasn’t each of the past 4 years been overenrolled as well?
I believe so, yes.
Getting over 30K apps is pretty damn good considering they don’t have engineering.
Must be the free t-shirts!
I don’t think so, but you are entitled to your opinion. My kid never got a t-shirt from Chicago during the application process.
According to WaPo, EA acceptance rate for UChicago was 8%
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/early-admission-rates-for-class-of-2019/2014/12/18/67db5036-86c4-11e4-9534-f79a23c40e6c_story.html