Ive been accepted to UF, but a lot of really dumb kids in my school got rejected and are just planning on going to Santa Fe and then transferring into UF after a year or 2. This concerns me, I know UF is a top notch public ivy but I do not want to be studying or graduating with a lot of kids who aren’t really as hardworking or smart. Basically what I want to know is how many Sante Fe kids successfully transfer into UF? And to any current UF students, does it bother you to have community college kids in your college?
Transferring is as (if not more) competitive than getting in as a freshman. If I am not mistaken, 38% of transfers students get admitted and 46% of freshman applicants get admitted. Don’t worry, transfer students aren’t going to tarnish your education! The best students still get admitted, but they took a less traditional route to getting in. Also, how well you do in high school doesn’t always translate to success in college. UF works very close with Santa Fe and has a strong academic partnership for many majors to feed in students after getting their AA. This is common for most public schools in the USA. Berkley, Michigan, Virginia and countless more take transfer students. You really have nothing to worry about.
Does this truly concern you? Keep you up at night? Way to be exclude people, man. Hate to break it to you, but your post comes across a bit smug and elitist.
2-year college transfers aren’t all people who couldn’t ‘hack it’ otherwise - there non-trads, student veterans, and those who are smart and just want to save money on tuition while figuring out what it is they wanna do in school. Never mind that kids who aren’t hardworking in high school and go straight to community college aren’t necessarily going to rack up straight As either. In the end a piece of paper is a piece of paper (as you’ll soon learn); it’s the experience of the individual that counts, not what institution printed it.
I strongly disagree navydoc8406 nowadays the ONLY thing that matters is the name of the institution on the paper, reputation is everything in today’s competitive job market. No Fortune 500 company is going to hire a community college kid over a top university grad because of how hard the community college kid is.
Okay then Financemajor. But there’s more to this life than what fortune 500 corporations care about. Know that these are made-up, socially crafted ideas about what has/has not value (kinda like money eh), which have no value whatsoever in the long run. If you’re in it for the rat race then that’s cool, but know that that’s a dead end game. If you’re going to play that game then you’re only going to be driven by your own ideas about what other people think of success, only to endlessly chase some sort of perceived prestige, some trophy or some badge to show off: your ‘quarterly earnings’, your mortgage, skin diving in Nassau, private educations for your kids, and a couple of Subarus in the garage.
And I’m telling you, stop reading into these prestige lists and college rankings and so on, you’re falling for somebody elses shtick - and you’re not even there yet! Get there first, then you can ask whether any of what you’re asking here really matters or not. Then you can ask yourself how concerned you are that “those students” who went to community college breathe the same air as you. You and your classmates will be too busy working hard to care who came from where, and that’s a fact. In the end everyone takes their piece of paper and leaves. These are the best years of your life, don’t spend them hung up on who you have to share a classroom with because in the end it all goes back in the box, dude.
Finance, if you’re saying a CC grad (meaning only going to a CC) isn’t going to be chosen over a 4-year state grad. I might agree with you a little, but it really doesn’t matter as much as you think. Don’t get hung up on prestige. That kid at a CC could have a job already lined up. EC’s, Work Experience, GPA and Internship’s can make up a lot for a lack of “prestige”. You could easily be working by a CC grad in your future. You can work your way up a company if you show talent.
If you were saying Transfer’s won’t get chosen over the same 4-year students for a job/internship. You are seriously misguided. Their diploma still says UF on it. With a similar/killer GPA and EC’s, they could land any job or internship you’d be applying for.
You really only need to worry about yourself. That’s going to land you a job, not if your school accepts transfers.
This thread is an absolute train wreck, and Financemajor, I’m going to put your in your place. I’m a engineering student at a Florida State College hoping to transfer to UF within the coming months and you sir, need to tone it down. So what? I didn’t go straight into UF after high school, even though I was accepted. I chose to go to Community College to save finances. It would have been a financial burden to leave right out of high school and CC has allowed me to save a lot of money and boost my stats. Youre a punk for thinking that we would diminish the quality of education at UF because we didn’t choose the traditional route. I don’t care who you are or how good your stats may be. We transfer students work very hard, and take pride in filling out our application, and checking this site often for tips and pointers just as you freshmen do. Don’t take us lightly.
I would have never guessed my first comment on this site would be to call out BS. God bless your stupidity.
EDIT: You want a good job? Work for it, instead of blaming us ‘transfers’. Here, take my award for the dumbest excuse ever.
Obviously my concern isn’t that hardworking transfer students will get into UF it’s that other kids that got rejected and are extremely lazy and partiers will essentially get in after a year and that would make me feel cheated as I worked much harder. I started this thread to see just how many CC transfers are let in and how competitive they are. I’m sorry if I offended you or others, I just wanted to know if the lazy CC bound druggies from my high school are going to be sitting in class with me.
Riddle me this. How many freshmen enter UF and become “extremely lazy partiers that would make you feel cheated as you worked much harder”. I guess that doesn’t matter as they entered traditionally.
Note: I am not generalizing freshmen, nor do I blame them for anything. Freshmen and transfers both work hard for what they have achieved, and it all comes down to what you choose to do with your education. I’m just pointing out Financemajor’s idiotic belief that somehow “lazy CC bound druggies” (which he stated above) are able to enter UF without going through the rigorous application process.
Your posts here and the honors thread are an example of how not to go about business. Why should you feel cheated? How does this affect you, or reduce your accomplishments? If they’re supposedly lazy, then let their experience reflect that. Let your experience be a reflection of your dedication and work, nothing else matters dude. Life’s not a contest, and trying to exclude yourself from others on account of imagined prestige is only going to be to your detriment. Real talk, you ought to relax and stop worrying about other people. Can’t stress this enough. People in this thread are trying to give you a healthy dose of reality (advice!), because god knows once you’re dropped into college in a few short months reality’s gonna hit you like a tidal wave there and beyond.
Also, characterizing your classmates that were rejected as “lazy druggy partiers” is a pretty ball-less generalization. You seem to be standing in quicksand, my man…
@navydoc8406
Amen. Preach it bro.
EDIT: I just read Financemajor’s post under the Honors thread. This kid needs a reality check.
@navydoc8406 not generalizing at all, the kids who got rejected from UF but worked hard are going to FSU or UCF or USF. There is a crop of kids who are literally drug addicts and got rejected from all the colleges they applied to. These kids have told me they’re going to Santa Fe and then gonna transfer into UF. I completely understand what you both are saying and I really am not trying to be rude or elitist. Still nobody has answered the question I posted which was “how many Santa Fe kids successfully transfer into UF” and how selective is the university on transfer applicants compared to traditional freshman applicants. @IAmSparkz you basically came here to bash how my poorly worded question came off as rude. I’m sorry that happened and I’m sorry you thought I generalized all CC kids as partiers but what I was referring to was the actual drug addicts at my school who are going to Santa Fe.
“And to any current UF students, does it bother you to have community college kids in your college?”
I’m not an engineer or anything, but the statement above speaks for itself. A little edit would have been nice. Either way, you really need to think about what @navydoc8406 said above.
@IAmSparkz Why can’t you get over how I worded my question wrong? I thought I clearly specified how sorry I was for incorrectly pooling all CC kids together when I meant a specific niche.
Quoting from @navydoc8406
“Why should you feel cheated? How does this affect you, or reduce your accomplishments? If they’re supposedly lazy, then let their experience reflect that. Let your experience be a reflection of your dedication and work, nothing else matters dude. Life’s not a contest, and trying to exclude yourself from others on account of imagined prestige is only going to be to your detriment. Real talk, you ought to relax and stop worrying about other people.”
It’s not about your mistake. It’s the lack of logic behind the thought process. The quote above should solve your problems.
Ok so clearly nobody has or is willing to answer my question but thanks for the parenting @IAmSparkz and @navydoc8406 at least @surrency1992 provided useful insight and helped me better understand the situation
Any time bro. PM me if you’re interested in my world famous blueberry muffins. I’m always open to swapping dessert recipes. /sarcasm
@IAmSparkz How good are those muffins…hmmm…muffins…
See page 14 of the 2014 Admissions Report for Admission stats on Transfer Students:
http://www.admissions.ufl.edu/flipbooks/2014_Admissions_Report/#?page=14
One of UF’s (and all other public universities in Florida) missions is to support the state of Florida’s CC system. All of the Florida public universities accept large number of CC transfer students.
UF is not your high school. Even if these kids complete AA’s at Santa Fe and successfully transfer, you will rarely if ever run into them on a Campus with 50,000 students.
FYI: A lot of Community College Students are very smart kids students from outside the US whose parents couldn’t afford to send them to 4-years Universities directly or very smart kids who attended High School in the US and use the Community College System to reduce their overall University Cost. I was perusing the Valedictorian/salutatorian list published in the local parent and noticed a few of them have selected to attend the local Community College. Some parents also believe that a part from using CC to minimize cost, their children have not matured to the point where they can succeed at a 4-year Institution during the Freshman/Sophomore years.
As college Tuition continue to rise and Grants such as Bridge Futures reduce the award amounts, while raising qualification requirements (STA/ACT Scores), more and more students will enroll in CC before finishing at a 4-year Institution. If the Obama Community College initiative succeeds, whereby Community College would be free for students, expect a huge jump in the number of very smart students who first enroll at a CC and then eventually transfer to a 4-year University.
BTW, I don’t think UF accepts CC students who do not meet their stringent admission standards, irrespective of which CC they attend. Also, CC students that Transfer into UF, stand a better chance of graduating with higher GPAs that students that started their Freshman year at UF, since their CC grades do not transfer over…only the credits. So a much more matured and serious CC transfer will only use the last 60 credits of college grades to determine his or her GPA.
@Financemajor22 I think I understand what you are concerned about. You have worked hard to be where you are, you have been accepted to UF and now you hear about a ‘back door’ way to get in where the high school “partiers and druggies” can get in to UF as well. All they have to do is go to Sante Fe and they are as good as in!
Well that is not exactly true. Going to community college is not a golden ticket into the 4 year university system. They still have to go through an application process and be accepted to UF. If they don’t perform well in community college and don’t make the grades, they won’t get in to UF. Like several posters have stated CC is a way for people to save some money financial but it’s also a way for the immature ‘partier and druggie’ student to come around and prove his or her intelligence. It’s not just about those who make bad choices in high school though. Some students struggle more academically, they may not be in an environment that has taught them how to study and work for their grades. They get a chance to learn this and prove themselves at CC and then have the opportunity to move on. If they are capable of getting their AA with decent grades then they will get a chance to finish at UF. They may be totally different people with different priorities when you see them again in 2 years.