<p>I am not looking for an instate school. I am wanting to get out of colorado. I think i have changed my mind on going to Hawaii, but I am still looking for a school near a beach, or at least warmer weather, I really dont like snow and i live in the largest ski resort ever. It doesnt really fit my personality</p>
<p>well here are a few options:</p>
<ul>
<li><p>UCSB: they have a beach on campus :D if u can handle the ON campus distraction, the go for it!
US News Ranking: #47</p></li>
<li><p>USC: great school spirit, great footbal and great academics. only problem is its located on a ghetto/shady area of Los Angeles.
US News Ranking: #27</p></li>
<li><p>UM (Fl): has amazing school spirit and sports scene. gorgeous campus with a lake in the middle. located in Coral Gables (upscale neigborhood). Pretty good academics but not nearly as good as USC.
US News Ranking: #54 </p></li>
<li><p>Florida: pretty good academically, amazing sports and school spirit. only problem is its location isnt near a beach. its in Central Florida but its got the warm weather which is a plus for u.
US News ranking: #47</p></li>
</ul>
<p>BTW, wat are ur stats, i reccommended school without knowing ur stats. Anyways these schools are a lot more competetive in admissions than Hawaii so ull prolly going to have to have good stats to get in.</p>
<p>It's funny because like Katie, I want to get away from my home state too(new york) my dream school has always been u of colorado, boulder which is where your from but because of the out of state tuition being so high, I dont think I'm going to be able to pursue my dream so im probably going to be heading towards warm weather.. hawaii pacific, university of tampa.. u cal schools are just too hard to get into at least for me.. and they want sat subject tests and I'm not planning on taking them.. good luck</p>
<p>My first choice school was NYU but i also cant go there because of cost. But i love boulder if you can some how mannnage it. It is the city the mountains the rivers the snow, the hot weather all in one. My brother goes there right now which is why i do not want to go there. but it is fantasic. My stats are
GPA 3.8
ACT 24 ( i just retook it and dont know my new score)
ranked 40 out of 160 </p>
<p>what other stats do you need?, but i will look into those schools.</p>
<p>Katibug - if you're concerned about cost, but want to go out of state check out the Western Undergraduate Exchange program: <a href="http://wue.wiche.edu/%5B/url%5D">http://wue.wiche.edu/</a> The basic deal is that participating public schools in several western states will accept applicants from other western states at a cost limited to 150% of in-state tuition. Not all schools participate (None of the UC's do) but there's a variety of schools which do which might meet your goals. In California you might look into Humboldt State (on the ocean but on the cold north coast) or CSU Chico.</p>
<p>My son's best friend went to UH in 2004 and had the same issues others have posted above. He wants to come back to California but has had some problem with transferability of credits or something. He's Asian, so he didn't encounter some of the haole problems others might encounter, but overall he wouldn't do it again.</p>
<p>Actually thats how i found Hawaii. I have looked at several schools on the WUE and really havent found many that I like. What was UH's problem with transfering credits. was it a accidental mistake or was it something thats common among the school.</p>
<p>Yeah, I want to know about that too. There are many local kids here that go to UH for a year and transfer out (usually to get a decent education at 1/8 of the cost), and I've never really heard any stories about having problems transferring credits.</p>
<p>I don't know. He'll be back in a few days - I'll ask him.</p>
<p>I know my SIL transfered from UC Berkeley to UH quite a few years back, because she couldn't transfer into engineering at Berkeley, but could get into the engineering program at UH. However, many of her general ed credits did not transfer from UCB to UH, as UH felt they were not rigorous enough.</p>
<p>She enjoyed her years at UH, only spent one in the dorms, the rest of the time she lived with roommates in a condo on the edge of Waikiki, just a 5 minute drive from campus. (Perhaps one of the few cases where buying a condo for your students would work out. The condo more than doubled in value while she was in college. After the family spent a few years using it for vacation my FIL sold it for over twice what he paid for it.) The hard part was finding a job when she got out. It seems there weren't many EE or computer jobs in the islands. She had to come back to the mainland to find a job.</p>
<p>BUMP...</p>
<p>I want to learn more about UH. I have recently looked into it, and I think it may be a great safety option. </p>
<p>I've heard academics aren't that great but I'm interested in business (marketing or tourism), communications, and meteorology. </p>
<p>Thanks...</p>
<p>Any comments?</p>
<p>True, the academics aren't top notch, but they are pretty reputable in those specific studies. For business especially, UH would be quite a great place to study. Other schools such as Wharton would be looked better upon by employers and whanot, but I don't think there's a place that can give you the hands-on opportunities with marketing and tourism like UH.</p>
<p>Jobs may be quite difficult to find in Hawaii (I wouldn't know) regarding business, though.</p>
<p>Hawaii is good or is not good in business because thats what i am hoping to study?</p>
<p>I live in Hawaii and honestly a number of kids see it as a joke to end up going to, especially if you go to one of the top Prep Schools. Many people who end up going to them are forced into it by parents, tuition costs, or poor grades. Honestly the campus could use alot of work in a number of places. You will find pretty awesome sports games though, allthough the student section is usually quite bare. But the Hawaiian community as a whole embraces the teams. I think Honolulu overall is a great college town and is a great place ot live. Honestly the school is very good in some fields. Honestly the problem becomes the prestige of a Hawaii degree on the mainland since jobs in Hawaii are both scarce and not very great.</p>
<p>Well I plan on becoming a business development associate, and I hope on getting an internship in LA during the summer, so I'm not really worried about the prestige of the degree. I know my capabilities so I think I'll be fine.</p>
<p>However, I am worried about the commuter rep. I don't want to be surrounded by students who still live with their parents. Is this because it is better to live off-campus or are most of the students still living at home?</p>
<p>Thanks...</p>
<p>Hypebeast, what school are you from?</p>
<p>My opinion is that if you have the grades and credentials to go to a tier-1 university, such as UPenn or UChicago, then do it. However, Hawaii is a pretty good place to learn about the international market and businesses in general. It's definitely not the "best" and most prestigious, but in what areas it lacks, you gain by learning firsthand about the uniqueness that Hawaii national/international relations have to offer (and quite frankly, I think that compensates). </p>
<p>SoCal-- I'm not going to lie to you, although you may have read it in this thread. The dorms at UH aren't the greatest. Also, maybe it's because of cultural traditions, but people here don't really look down on you because you live with your parents, so I don't think you'll have such a general attitude with those that do. Commuting is fine considering that UH is so close to Honolulu; it's only a problem if you want to get onto the west side of the island, which you most likely will never have to do.</p>
<p>Here are some stats:
1% American Indian/Alaskan Native
65% Asian/Pacific Islander
1% Black/Non-Hispanic
3% Hispanic
27% White/Non-Hispanic
3% Non-Resident Alien
1% Race/ethnicity unreported </p>
<p>75% in state</p>
<p>15% of 1st year students live on campus
15% of Undergrads live on campus</p>
<p>UH is obviously a commuter school. The majority of the students are locals who evidently live off campus.</p>
<p>The people that are interested in uh-- should also look into hawaii pacific university. That's where I am applying as a safety.. There are more people living on campus as well as more people coming from out of state.</p>
<p>But UH offers D1 football and other school spirit events like that. And UH Volleyball is amazing.</p>
<p>"Well, something good: it has one of the best Japanese programs in the nation."
The statistics and stuff that support hat argument are flawed. 27.3% of the student population is of Japanese descent. If a third of your students have Japanese parents, are Japanese themselves, then is the Japanese program really that good, or are there just a ton of Japanese people in it? I don't know, prospective students should consider this and maybe consider other colleges with good Japanese programs which don't have such a sizable population of Japanese people. Unless of course the goal isn't to learn the language but instead to hang around Japanese people. If that's your goal, by all means come to Manoa.
Statistics from - <a href="http://www.hawaii.edu/cgi-bin/iro/maps?semaf02.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://www.hawaii.edu/cgi-bin/iro/maps?semaf02.pdf</a></p>
<p>UH Manoa is a terrible school by nearly every measurement. There is an insane amount of red tape, mediocre academics, and a terrible study body. As an out of state student you will be flying thousands of miles to go to a commuter school. It's really hard to convey just how bad this school is. One really good figure is the 4 year graduation rate. It is 11%. (collegeresults.org) That is incredibly bad. Even mediocre state schools hover around 50%. Whats worse is that most students don't care, the 'pace of life' means that most people don't expect to graduate in 4 years. 50% of students graduate in 6 years. That is insane. Thats like spending 5 years at a community college. I repeat: Do not go to UH Manoa. If you are for some reason compelled to, I would suggest going there for a summer. You will be surrounded by people also there just for the summer, be able to do all the stuff Hawaii is known for, and not be stigmatized by a worthless degree from a bottom tier university.</p>