<p>I'd actually agree with most people in saying that UChicago is probably the best school in the midwest. I didn't like it for the same reasons most people don't like it. What I am saying is that to the common midwest man, Northwestern is in the holy grail of colleges.</p>
<p>What's funny is, most Wildcats, from my experience, will acknowledge U Chicago's academics are a notch above. Of course, there's more to school than just the academics...</p>
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<p>You mean the *Mild*cats? ;)</p>
<p>If you get enough scholarships, and if you are in-state, University of Michigan will pretty much pay you to go to college.</p>
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<p>Shush. We had a respectable season. Just wait till next year! :(</p>
<p>shouldn't the OP tell people what he's looking for? ;)</p>
<p>^^Losing to Duke was bad. But I guess that wasn't as painful as UCB losing to Stanford. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>I surprised Washington University-St. Louis is not mentioned with the best schools in the midwest unless you consider it be in the south.</p>
<p>In reality it has a long way to go. Engineering there is poor. Business just decent. Most of it's rep is based on the Med Center and some liberal arts areas--though not the arts either. Basically a hype machine of modest substance.</p>
<p>A bit more on Michigan</p>
<p>Feast</a> or famine: Michigan will hunger for jobs awhile more</p>
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<p><em>lifts up head from Aristotle's De Anima</em> wait, what???</p>
<p>When my brother visited Michigan (more specifically, he visited Michigan's stadium), he thought he had died and gone to heaven. He actually spent a good deal of time trying to convince my parents to turn down the Ivy he got into for Michigan... ultimately, my parents persuaded him to consider the Ivy over Michigan.</p>
<p>Now that he's done with school, though, I think he thinks he would have been much better off going to Ross as an undergrad than he did studying econ.</p>
<p>Again, it's different strokes for different folks. The school I chose is right for me in so many ways, just the way that Michigan is going to be right for some people and NU for others. Michigan is a force to be reckoned with in many academic areas.</p>
<p>I'm not sure what you're puzzling over unalove. To clarify my post, though: Many of the other NU student's I've spoken with would concede that Chicago is better on a purely academic front (not saying that's necessarily true, just that its a common perception in my experience (NOTE: I live on south campus)). Now, that's not saying any of those people would wasn't to go to U Chicago- such a statement usually is followed by a "those poor bastards" esque remark.</p>
<p>Perhaps I'm biased though, since my mother is an Alumnus of U of C for undergrad and graduate.</p>
<p>Oh, I'm not puzzling over anything; I was poking fun of myself, my own academicky inclinations, and the UChicago stereotype. (Which is, I should emphasize, just a stereotype-- it's as equally untrue as any of the other many simplistic characterizations you could make about any other school).</p>
<p>I get a combination of responses when I tell people I go there, ranging from an "Oh my god, I'm so sorry for you" to "ROCK ON!" to the sullen "You probably have less work than me" (which comes out of one of my good friends, an engineering major at NU, who says he doesn't know what a weekend is).</p>
<p>I find this all quite amusing. I love the school very very much, even though I don't see myself as any kind of masochist or academic martyr, I guess other people have different interpretations about it, and I'm used to it.</p>
<p>Ohhh, haha. Gotcha. ;)</p>
<p>^^Unalove, which engineering major would THAT be? I think I'll stay away from it perhaps... ;)</p>
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<p>The 34% may be an accurate quote for the freshman class, but the poster before you was talking about all undergraduates, not just the incoming class. If you look more closely at the college board's profile for Michigan, that 34% figure is cited for "1st-year students."</p>
<p>The previous poster was accurate--it's about 40% nonresident.</p>
<p>Notre Dame, Michigan, and Duke are all schools people love to hate. Why? Because they have the best blend of sports, academics, alumni network, terric job placement, and they command huge salaries. Somehow, Stanford escapes this negativity. I guess that why it Stanford!</p>
<p>Michigan's economy isn't affecting the University of Michigan (and it's magically expanding endowment fund) as much as one would think. In fact, it's hardly affecting it at all.</p>
<p>aquamarinee,</p>
<p>I think uvalove's friend is a freshman and probably hasn't declared a major yet. Ever since NU started their unique introductory curriculum about 10 years ago, engineers started working on engineering group projects/problem sets right from the beginning, before they declare their major. So everyone is in the same boat regardless of what their intended discipline is. From what I heard, it's a lot of work but also very practical. In the old days, engineers just take chemistry/physics/math during their freshmen year (this is what students in most other schools still do today) just like other regular science majors. It was easier back then.</p>
<p>That said, I'd say chemE gets my vote as the toughest. :)</p>
<p>^^ My friend is a junior, mechanical engineering, and I'm sure he was exaggerating somewhat. He spends time with his frat and go to games, but he does work incredibly hard.</p>
<p>proletariat, there's something to that.</p>
<p>Sometimes (and not just in Michigan) higher ed does well when the economy is poor. Demand for education usually goes up, not down, when jobs are scarce. </p>
<p>Michigan (as a state) has cited for having too few college-educated adults. In part, this is because some families could count on line jobs in auto manufacturing to earn them a comfortable living, no degree needed. That has changed. </p>
<p>It remains to be seen whether the state is willing to fund the increasing need for (and demand for) higher education. In the short term, the state has really cut support for higher ed here, but I've seen few signs that it has harming the quality of U-M or the kinds of students it attracts.</p>