Hi guys, I need your help figuring something out. I was waitlisted at Umich and accepted my spot but a few days later I went on the portal and canceled the application because I had committed to UVA and the more I thought about it, UVA seemed like a really cool place. Now I realize that I may have made a huge mistake and that Umich is definitely where I would like to go. When I log on to my portal it says that my waitlist interest has been verified but under application status, it says application canceled. Does this mean that my name has been eliminated from the waitlist or do I still have a chance?
At Michigan State University, enrollment deposits from accepted instate students are up 14% over last year. Deposits by OOS accepted students are down. If the University of Michigan is experiencing similar trends, there may be fewer IS students accepted from the wait list.
If fewer OOS kids are accepting then wouldn’t umich want to take more IS students since they are more likely to attend and umich needs a certain class size?
If you canceled the application then you canceled the application. If Michigan is really what you want EMAIL today and call when they are open that you just checked and you hit the wrong key or something is wrong with your computer etc. Don’t delay this. But make sure you can afford it and this is something you really want to do.
@dep123, UM is predicting up to a $500 million budget shortfall for the coming year. OOS students pay higher tuition.
My best guess is that for budget reasons, UM will not want the percentage of OOS students to fall. So, all else equal - and in light of the fact that enrollment deposits from accepted IS (OOS) students are likely higher (lower) than expected - I think that admissions from the waitlist will be disproportionately OOS students.
But, that’s just my opinion. UM is the most expensive state school in Michigan. So, it’s also possible cash-strapped Michigan families are turning to less expensive state schools like MSU.
Here’s another thing to consider. We don’t know the extent to which Michigan’s March admissions offers factored in COVID trends. If they did, then there very well could be a considerable number of IS admissions offers from the wait list.
MSU and U of M cost same instate.
May 1st will be telling. I am sure they are using all their metrics to get an idea of how many IS they can invite. It’s interesting since Wayne State University is an option for many but it seems they might be committing to online class’s.
As far as I know u of m takes equal number of IS and OOS students. This year big difference would be international students. I am sure few OOS students are accepting admissions also. COVID-19 is not over yet. It will be worse in fall as flu season will be in full swing. Being a parent and a physician extremely concerned about sending my son far from home. He is IS and on waitlist at U of M. Also worried if he goes out of state and ends up taking classes online in fall than what’s the point paying OOS tuition. I am also very concerned the COVID-19 will still be an issue till spring of 2021 unless we have a vaccine. Imagine you are locked in to an apartment lease and are sent home due to COVID-19 like what happened to kids in March. You still have to pay rent. My older son is Junior at U of M school of engineering. So I know this happened. Just hoping my son gets in. We were sure he will make it. Now that he is on waitlist and few days are left for deposits at other schools. It has been very to make final decision. Almost considering he should take a gap year and apply again in fall. I am sure it’s been hard for everyone.
For all of you stressing out about the upcoming May 1, definitely reach out to your accepted schools and ask for an extension to June 1 - we were granted the extension at a couple of schools this morning - schools that are comparable to UM.
My son is also a junior in engineering and still on campus. He is in Northwoods 3. You were able to petition to stay on campus. He did and was a good decision for him. Hard to get things done at home in general. My daughter at another college is a senior and at her apartment also.
He is going back and looking at the co-op house on North since they have lots of single rooms and a Chef! This way they will be lenient if kids break leases etc. I actually talked to the coop housing. Or he will look for apartments on north or Central. He still would rather be at school then at home being a senior. His internship was canceled but I digress ?.
Anyway, I just think this is the normal. It will be interesting if Michigan allows taking kids off the waitlist then they want to do a gap year. Kinda defeats the purpose for them and puts a strain on them for next year.
We are thinking taking gap year if he doesn’t get in to U of M.
And doing what? There aren’t jobs, internships or travel available.
@qwertyr73097 , I would not tell admissions that you hit the wrong key or had computer problems (sorry to disagree with your advice, @Knowsstuff). Just be honest- you removed yourself but now you are still interested in Michigan. Just make sure you can afford it and that you would make the switch if you should get off the waitlist. But don’t be surprised if admissions tells you they will not consider your application( since you did withdraw from the waitlist). UVA is a great option!
UM has a higher percentage of OOS students at around 50% so they will get hit more then Michigan state which I think is 85% instate… this is where state schools that rely heavily on OOS students will get hit the most
Daughter is WL at U of M. Although she accepted a spot on the WL, she happily moved on mentally when she was first WL’d but is beginning to reconsider everything in light of the virus’ long term effects on schools. Now I feel worse for her because this new wave of acceptances at UM (she was not one of them) seems to have opened up a new round of waiting and wondering (not just UM but other schools too).
I am curious if others think there will be another wave or whether this is it for OOS LSA.
My son is in the same situation - OOS - I do think there will be another round of OOS kids getting off the waitlist some time after May 1 - UM is the most expensive public school for OOS, along with UVA - with 50% of the UM student body being OOS, and the huge budget shortfalls, I imagine it will be critical for UM to maintain OOS enrollment. The X factor for the waitlist is how many are on the list, and how many of the accepted students are going to change their mind or be swayed by the current situation - whether it is travel concerns, financial crisis and cost concerns, online experience, etc. I would think UM’s problem will not be as acute since it has the brand and there will always be a strong demand. I also think schools that will suffer the most in terms of enrollment will be the highly priced private schools that are not at Ivy or similar level in terms of demand.
@akk98life, we have kids at UM and MSU. The sticker price of a year at UM is at most a couple of thousand higher.
But, we’ve found the effective price to be a lot higher. UM gives less AP credit per course, and many students opt not to take AP credit in competitive STEM courses. Our daughter chose to enter UM with 7 credits from AP courses. At MSU, she would have started as a sophomore.
MSU offers flat rate tuition. Academically strong students can shave off the cost of a semester.
There are also more hidden costs at UM. Our daughter arrived early for an extracurricular commitment last Fall. No dorm food service was available, so she ate out for 10 days. Kids in the same activity at MSU are fed in a dorm during the preseason training. Parents at UM pay for parent orientation. It’s free at MSU (or at least was when my son started), etc.
But, the largest cost differences relates to the standard of living in Ann Arbor. There isn’t enough dorm space at UM for all sophomores. Rents in security buildings close to campus are much steeper in A2 than in East Lansing. Then, there’s the fact that the average UM parent is wealthier than the average MSU parent. So, kids at UM have higher discretionary spending.
For all of these reasons, we’ve found having a kid at UM to be significantly more expensive than having a kid at MSU.
But, we have no regrets about sending our daughter to UM! And, my best guess is that UM got an uptick in in-state acceptances, as did MSU.
OK so my advice above was not the best… @sevmom But Michigan will have their class. There’s normally tens of Thousands of students on their wait list. Just looking at the stats, Michigan’s waitlist could easily be another schools EA list. No shortage of talented, smart kids.
The choice of a gap year is a personal family choice. I can definitely see it both ways.
But I am doing a 180 about Loci on the waitlist
Not really a loci per se but seeing what’s happening if I was an instate kid, I would reach out to admissions or my Michigan AO for my school and just say you noticed OOS acceptances and just wonder if there will be a instate acceptance wave, since you are ready to commit before May 1st if you are so fortunate.
I don’t think there anything wrong with that. If I had a sibling there I would mention it would be great to be on campus with my sibling and always end with a thank you and of course Go Blue!
I kinda wouldn’t mention your going to or might take a gap year though. ?
How’s that @sevmom? ?.
Sounds good, @Knowsstuff . I follow the UVA and Virginia Tech forums some because that’s where my kids went. UVA looks like they are just starting to go to the waitlist and I have seen both instate and out of state kids post that they got off the waitlist. Virginia Tech has been using the waitlist for awhile now in April but every poster that has been admitted has been OOS ( of course, we are only seeing results for those on CC).
It is interesting to see how different public universities are using their waitlists . I don’t think it could hurt for a Michigan instate kid to reach out to admissions . Good advice!